I see your point about rebellion, and I agree completely. Plus, I was forgetting that earlier in the chapter (§52c), it says: "For Fëanor now began openly to speak words of rebellion against the Valar". That cinches it, for me.
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About "abide with Indis": In the original context "abide" could not mean that Indis and Nerdanel shared one house. We are told already that Fëanor left his father's house as soon as he could, and I very much doubt that he returned to it when he married Nerdanel. So in the original sense it would mean both Indis and Nerdanel stayed in Tirion, while both husbands moved to Formenos. For me this is fully compatible with Nerdanel leafing the (now empty) house of Fëanor and moving back into the house of her father Sarmo. Beside that it is for us an easy way of telling that Indis stayed in Tirion as well.
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Ah, ok. I get it. I was reading "abide" with the meaning "to reside, dwell" (i.e. Nerdanel asked leave to reside with Indis). You're reading it as meaning "to remain without going away, to stay" (i.e. Nerdanel asked leave to remain in Tirion along with Indis). I think you're right, that's most likely how Tolkien intended it to be understood.
In that case, I think the following works better, what do you think?
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... But Nerdanel would not go with him, DoV-UN-00.8c <Shibboleth for after long endeavouring to change his mood, she became estranged. (Her kin were devoted to Aule, who counselled her father to take no part in the rebellion. 'It will in the end only lead Fëanor and all your children to death.')>{, and} And she asked leave to abide with Indis, whom she had ever esteemed, though this had been little to the liking of Fëanor. ...
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And then a simple change to Chapter 12 by starting that Shibboleth insert a few words earlier:
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FoN-EX-06b <Shibboleth Nerdanel had retired to her father's house; but when it became clear that Fëanor and his sons would leave Valinor for ever, she came to him before the host started on its northward march, and begged that Fëanor should leave her the two youngest, the twins, or one at least of them. He replied: ‘Were you a true wife, as you had been till cozened by Aulë, you would keep all of them, for you would come with us. If you desert me, you desert also all of our children. For they are determined to go with their father.’ Then Nerdanel was angry and she answered: ‘You will not keep all of them. One at least will never set foot on Middle-earth.’ ‘Take your evil omens to the Valar who will delight in them,’ said Fëanor. ‘I defy them’. So they parted.>
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If you want to keep what you have, you at least need to change the tense of "thus she abide with Indis" to one of these:
- thus did she abide with Indis
- thus she abode with Indis
- thus she abided with Indis