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Old 10-17-2003, 10:53 AM   #49
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Why does the fear have to be the "same" fear? Fear owuld be present, and Sauron would undoubtedly be more terrifying than the Nazgul.

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The fact remains that this occurs in LOTR and none of your alternative suggestions as to who would be Sauron's 2nd have any textual back up at all!
Nor is there any textual back up that the Mouth would be second in command, or that there is, in fact, anyone designated as second in command.

What "occurs" in Lord of the Rings? The passage I'm guessing that you're referecing (since I've requested it multiple times with no response) does not state that he is second in command, or that he is the only lt., or that he is even going to be that lt. at Isengard.

You only claim the Mouth to be the only candidate for second in command based on your opinions of what common sense dictates Sauron should do. If we base everything not stated on "common sense" (especially because thoughts on what this is would differ from person to person), then we are taking away Sauron's character and placing ourselves in his position.

Because you think it would be in Sauron's best interest to place the Mouth at Isengard and proclaim him second in command does not mean it is what he would've done.

I think it was stupid to have such incompetent orcs running Cirith Ungol; I think a better plan to retrieve the Ring would not have included sending the Nazgul out to spread havoc in trying to attain the Ring by force. Did Sauron agree? No. Did he succeed in these tasks? No. Does that change the fact that they occurred the way they did? No.

[ October 17, 2003: Message edited by: Legolas ]
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