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When I corrected you with approx 16 examples, you then stated that these pieces of loss or suffering weren't 'enough'. Make your mind up!
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Essex, I have and had made my mind up. These examples do not create enough feeling of loss. Like it or not the depiction of war within Tolkien is horribly sanitised.
In general the good boys go to war, kick the enemies behind and come back again.
A couple of exceptions does not an era ending war make.
Also, I should point out that you cannot claim 16 examples.
Nearly dying is not an example.
Claiming 2-3 examples for one death is not a way to increase your count either.
Likewise for keeping Sam and Merry & Pippin's loss of Frodo seperate so that you increase your example count.
Elrond losing Arwen, Arwen losing Elrond being seperated into two seperate examples.
I think it is obvious you were stretching it a bit to even reach 16 examples.
[ October 25, 2003: Message edited by: Eurytus ]