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***Mithadan*** · 01-09-2001, 03:57 PM

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Re: Hmm. . .

Hmmmm indeed. Are you suggesting that the Ring played no part in either event despite the similarities in the statements made by Frodo, the "out of character" nature of Frodo's words and demeanor, and the fact that these also happen to be the only occaisions when Sam had such visions of Frodo? Add to that the fact that Gollum promptly did exactly what Frodo said would happen to him if Gollum touched him again and that the orcs of the Tower had similar visions of Sam when he was holding the Ring and I suggest we have a fairly strong circumstantial case favoring the Ring's involvement.

--Mithadan--
"The Silmarils with living light
were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

01-09-2001, 03:57 PM	#30
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,393	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Shade of Carn Dûm Posts: 458</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Hmm. . . Hmmmm indeed. Are you suggesting that the Ring played no part in either event despite the similarities in the statements made by Frodo, the "out of character" nature of Frodo's words and demeanor, and the fact that these also happen to be the only occaisions when Sam had such visions of Frodo? Add to that the fact that Gollum promptly did exactly what Frodo said would happen to him if Gollum touched him again and that the orcs of the Tower had similar visions of Sam when he was holding the Ring and I suggest we have a fairly strong circumstantial case favoring the Ring's involvement. --Mithadan-- "The Silmarils with living light were kindled clear, and waxing bright shone like stars that in the North above the reek of earth leap forth." </p> __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.