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Diamond18 · 10-12-2002, 09:15 PM

Knight of Gondor, Kuruharan pretty much answered your question for me. I haven't studied it that much either, but from what Tolkien said it seemed to me that only Men got to join Eru Iluvatar beyond Arda. I don't know exactly what happens to Elves who are killed...I wasn't inclined to think reincarnation, but I guess I wouldn't rule that out since I don't know Tolkien's mind.

My concept of Elvish death was that their spirits dwelled in the Halls of Mandos in Valinor until the end. What happens then...I don't recall Tolkien ever saying (in the works I've read, which admittedly doesn't include HoME).

I just thought that was the whole point of Luthien and Arwen becoming mortal, because there was no other way to see their husbands after death, even if they were killed as an Elf.

10-12-2002, 09:15 PM	#13
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Knight of Gondor, Kuruharan pretty much answered your question for me. I haven't studied it that much either, but from what Tolkien said it seemed to me that only Men got to join Eru Iluvatar beyond Arda. I don't know exactly what happens to Elves who are killed...I wasn't inclined to think reincarnation, but I guess I wouldn't rule that out since I don't know Tolkien's mind. My concept of Elvish death was that their spirits dwelled in the Halls of Mandos in Valinor until the end. What happens then...I don't recall Tolkien ever saying (in the works I've read, which admittedly doesn't include HoME). I just thought that was the whole point of Luthien and Arwen becoming mortal, because there was no other way to see their husbands after death, even if they were killed as an Elf. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.