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alaklondewen · 10-15-2002, 02:49 PM

In The Hobbit, Bilbo and Thorin and Co. were kidnapped by goblins in the Misty Mountains. In LotR, orcs are the foul creatures that live within the caves of the mountains. I have always believed that they were the same creature. I thought JRRT opted for a better word in LotR.

As I watched the movie again the other day, something stuck in my mind. Gandalf tells Elrond that Saruman is breeding Orcs with Goblin men. What is the difference? I've tried finding differences physically in the movie, but the books are what matter. Are the orcs and goblins two separate species or races? If so, where do the goblins come from?

10-15-2002, 02:49 PM	#1
alaklondewen Song of Seregon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Following the road less traveled Posts: 1,201	Orcs and Goblins In The Hobbit, Bilbo and Thorin and Co. were kidnapped by goblins in the Misty Mountains. In LotR, orcs are the foul creatures that live within the caves of the mountains. I have always believed that they were the same creature. I thought JRRT opted for a better word in LotR. As I watched the movie again the other day, something stuck in my mind. Gandalf tells Elrond that Saruman is breeding Orcs with Goblin men. What is the difference? I've tried finding differences physically in the movie, but the books are what matter. Are the orcs and goblins two separate species or races? If so, where do the goblins come from? __________________ At last I understand why we have waited! This is the ending. Now not day only shall be beloved, but night too shall be beautiful and blessed and all its fear pass away!