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While Fin and I wait for Aiwendil to continue his review of our work, I thought we might as well start discussion on reaching a consensus for this (very complex) chapter. I will take it section by section, keeping all of the previous editing markers (roughly) as they were, and adding new ones. This will include my attempt to work the Shibboleth storyline into the LQ chapter, and may very well be rough, so please bear with me while this is worked out.

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Of Finwë and Míriel

§1 Now the three kindreds ...... brush or with pen.
§2 It came to pass that in ...... of the Noldor.
§3 Míriel was the name of his mother. ........ Therefore she was called Serindë DoV-FM-00.5 <SF a name which she had indeed already been given as a 'mother-name'.> [Footnote: Míriel Serindë: that is DoV-FM-01 {Byrde Míriel (}Míriel the Broidress{): quoth Ælfwine}.]
§4 The love of Finwë and Míriel ...... and when she had named him DoV-FM-02 <FM2 [Footnote: According to the custom of the Eldar. In addition to their 'true names', which were their father-name and their chosen name, they often received other or 'added names'. Of these the most important were the mother-names. Mothers often gave to their children special names of their own choosing, the most notable of which were 'names of insight'. In the hour of birth, or on some other occasion of moment, a mother might give to her child a name that referred to dominant features of its nature as she perceived it, or that came of foresight and referred to its special fate. Names of this kind might become more widely used than the father-name (which was often only the name of the father repeated or modified); and if the child adopted a mother-name as a 'chosen name', then it became also a 'true name'. Curufinwë took Fëanáro as his chosen name. Fëanor is the form that this name took in the later speech of the Exiled Noldor.]> she said to Finwë: 'Never again shall I bear a child, for strength that would have nourished the life of many has gone forth into Fëanor.'
§5 Finwë was greatly ..... Here all weariness can find rest.'
DoV-FM-02.1 <moved from later §22 During that time Fëanor {dwelt in the care of his father. Soon he} began to show forth the skills in hand and mind of both Finwë and Míriel. As he grew from childhood he became ever more like Finwë in stature and countenance DoV-FM-03.2{, but in mood he resembled Míriel rather}. <SF Fëanor loved his mother dearly, though except in obstinacy their characters were widely different. He was not gentle. He was proud and hot-tempered, and opposition to his will he met not with the quiet steadfastness of his mother but with fierce resentment. He was restless in mind and body, though like Míriel he could become wholly absorbed in works of the finest skill of hand; but he left many things unfinished. While she lived she did much with gentle counsel to soften and restrain him. Her death was a lasting grief to Fëanor, and both directly and by its further consequences a main cause of his later disastrous influence on the history of the Noldor.> His will was strong and determined, and he pursued all his purposes both eagerly and steadfastly. Few ever changed his courses by counsel, none by force.>
§6 But when Míriel still languished, Finwë sought the counsel of Manwë, and Manwë delivered her to the care of Irmo in Lóriën. At their parting (for a little while as he thought) Finwë was sad, for it seemed an unhappy chance DoV-FM-02.2 {that the mother should depart and miss the beginning at least of the childhood days of her son}.
§7 ‘Unhappy it is indeed,’ .... Farewell, dear lord!'
§8 She spoke no clearer than this at that time, but in her heart she yearned not only for sleep and rest but release from the labour of living. DoV-FM-02.3 <SF The cause of her weariness she believed to be the bearing of Fëanor, great in mind and body beyond the measure of the Eldar. Her weariness she had endured until he was full grown, but she could endure it no longer.> She went then to Lóriën and laid her ..... but she did not return.
§9 Finwë lived in sorrow; ..... wife he called her by her names. {But it was of no avail,} DoV-FM-02.4 <SF But Míriel was reluctant, and to all the pleas of her husband and her kin that were reported to her, and to the solemn counsels of the Valar, she would say no more than ‘not yet'. Each time that she was approached she became more fixed in her determination, until at last she would listen no more, saying only: 'I desire peace. Leave me in peace here! I will not return. That is my will.'> {and}Thus Finwë alone in the Blessed Realm was bereaved of joy. DoV-FM-02.5 <SF So the Valar were faced by the one thing that they could neither change nor heal: the free will of one of the Children of Eru, which it was unlawful for them to coerce - and in such a case useless, since force could not achieve its purpose.>
After a while DoV-FM-02.6 {he}[Finwë] went to Lóriën ...... bond of love upon them.
§10 Yet Finwë was not ...... from the house of Vairë.'
§11 Then Manwë was moved ...... which the Children should bring into the world.
§12 But when all was said, ..... dissolved forever.
§13 ‘How shall a marriage ..... within the life of Arda.
§14 ‘We say “by the will .... one time awake and alive.
'This is the doom of Námo Mandos in this matter.'

§15 When Mandos had spoken thus, ..... judgements of Mandos?'
§16 Then Manwë called ...... Be not in haste!'
§17 Finwë answered: ...... a term to my bereavement.'
§18 Vairë with whom Míriel ...... but not within it.'
§19 Then Vairë said to Mandos: .... ageing of the world.'
§20 But Mandos said: ...... Yea, and to many others!'
§21 But the spirit of Míriel remained silent. Mandos therefore accepted her choice, and she went then to the Halls of Waiting appointed to the Eldar and was left in peace. DoV-FM-02.7 <SF 'So she must remain until the end of the world. For from the moment that Finwë and {Indis}[another] are joined in marriage all future change and choice will be taken from her and she will never again be permitted to take bodily shape. Her present body will swiftly wither and pass away, and the Valar will not restore it. For none of the Eldar may have two wives both alive in the world.' These were the words of Manwë, and an answer to the doubts that some had felt. For it was known to all the Valar that they alone had the power to heal or restore the body for the re-housing of a fëa that should in the later chances of the world be deprived; but that to Manwë also was given the right to refuse the return of the fëa.> [Footnote: But it is said that after a time DoV-FM-03 <FM2; following Note 3 {…..} she was permitted to return to the house of Vairë, and there it was her part to record in web and broidery all the histories of the Kin of Finwë and the deeds of the Noldor.] Nonetheless Mandos declared that a space of twelve years should pass between the declaration of the will of the Dead and the pronouncement of the doom of disunion.
DoV-Fm-03.1 <moved to earlier {§22 During that time .... none by force.}>
§23 It came to pass that ..... but of the Vanyar, being the DoV-FM-04 [daughter of the] sister of Ingwë; ..... while the bliss of Aman lasted.
§24 She loved Finwë dearly; ...... filling them with music.
§25 Now Ingwë, hearing ..... counsel of Ingwe.'
§26 Therefore one day, ..... grief in Aman!'
§27 In one year from their meeting upon the Mountain Finwë, King of the Noldor, wedded Indis, DoV-FM-05 sister[-daughter] of Ingwë; and ..... and she bore him DoV-FM-06 {five}[four] children whom he loved;[Footnote: Findis, Fingolfin, DoV-FM-07 {Finvain}[Írien] {, [Finarphin >]}[ and] Finarfin{ and Faniel: three}[:two] daughters, and two sons (Fingolfin and Finarfin).] yet the shadow of Míriel did not depart from the house of Finwë, nor from his heart; and of all whom he loved Fëanor had ever the chief share of his thought.
§28 DoV-FM-08 <SF During the time of his sorrow Finwë had little comfort from Fëanor. For a while he also had kept vigil by his mother’s body, but soon he became wholly absorbed again in his own works and devices. When the matter of Finwë and Indis arose he was disturbed, and filled with anger and resentment; though it is not recorded that he attended the Debate or paid heed to the reasons given for the judgement, or to its terms except in one point: that Míriel was condemned to remain forever discarnate, so that he could never again visit her or speak with her, unless he himself should die. [footnote: Death by free will, such as Míriel’s, was beyond his thought. Death by violence he thought impossible in Aman DoV-FM-09 {; though as is recorded in The Silmarillion this proved otherwise}.] This grieved him, and he grudged the happiness of Finwë and Indis, and was unfriendly to their children, even before they were born.> {The}Thus, the wedding of his father ...... would have been the poorer.
As a general note on this section, I have not included the debate of the Valar, since I plan to include that in the Volume III under the Statute of Finwe and Miriel.

DoV-FM-00.5: SF addition. Agreed
DoV-FM-01: editing out Aelfwine. Agreed
DoV-FM-02: LQ change. Agreed
DoV-FM-02.1: Because of the SF change where Miriel raised Feanor until adulthood, I had to move the paragraph about the growth of Feanor earlier, and make a few changes to erase the Finwe = single parent bits.
DoV-FM-03.2: replacing the LQ text with SF expansion. Agreed
DoV-FM-02.2: This must be removed, since in the new version, he is already full-grown.
DoV-FM-02.3: SF expansion detailing her mood.
DoV-FM-02.4: SF dialogue
DoV-FM-02.5: This is an interesting lens of looking at the situation that seemed lacking in the LQ text, so i took it from the SF
DoV-FM-02.6: We have lost the antecedent to the "he" with all the additions, so I changed it to Finwe.
DoV-FM-02.7: Dialogue of Manwe insertion. This bit of dialogue from SF also makes the whole Miriel re-housing story from the Laws and Customs text impossible
DoV-FM-03: Because of the Manwe dialogue, this footnote insertion is impossible, so I have removed it.
DoV-FM-03.1: this paragraph was moved earlier.
DoV-FM-04: SF family tree change. Agreed
DoV-FM-05: same as 04. Agreed
DoV-FM-06: Genealogy corrections. Agreed
DoV-FM-07: same as 06. Agreed
DoV-FM-08: SF addition about the mood of Feanor. I took up the paragraph in full, since it is a very interesting look at his psychology and I saw no real reason to break it up the way Fin had done. It does not repeat exactly anything that follows in the LQ paragraph, so I think simply inserting it is best.
DoV-FM-09: This is too meta, and should be removed from the footnote.

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Of Fëanor and the Unchaining of Melkor

§46c DoV-UM-01 <LQ And Fëanor grew swiftly as if a secret fire were kindled within him. and he was tall and fair of face and masterful, DoV-UM-02<Sil77 his eyes piercingly bright and his hair raven-dark;> and he became of all the Noldor .... could be seen small but clear, as with the eyes of the Eagles of Manwë. DoV-UM-02.2 <VT39 He is said also {being then in his youth before the days of his discontent,} to have learned, mostly from Aulë, more than any other of the Eldar in Arda of the language of the Valar. {This he got mostly from Aule}> Seldom were the hand and mind of Fëanor at rest.>
While still in early youth ...... Her father, {Mahtan}[Sarmo], DoV-UM-02.5 <SF {[who] was most widely known as Urundil 'copper-lover' >}, was a great smith, and among those of the Noldor most dear to the heart of Aulë, {<SF [for he] was an Aulendur, [Footnote: 'Servant of Aulë': sc. one who was devoted to that Vala. It was applied especially to those persons, or families, among the Noldor who actually entered Aulë’s service, and who in return received instruction from him.] and entered into {Aulë’s} [the Vala’s] service>}. {<SF He loved copper, and set it above gold, [and] usually wore a band of copper about his head. His hair was not as dark or black as was that of most of the Noldor, but brown, and had glints of coppery-red in it. >} Of {Mahtan}[Sarmo] Nerdanel ..... strange but beautiful.
She also was firm of will, ..... Eldar had so many children. DoV-UM-02.7 {<SF Of {Nerdanel's}[their] seven children the oldest, and the twins (a very rare thing among the Eldar) had [brown] hair [with coppery-red in it] {of this kind}. The eldest also wore a copper circlet.>} With her wisdom ...... was drawing to its close.
DoV-UM-03 <LQ For it came to pass that Melkor, as the Valar decreed, had dwelt for three ages in the duress of Mandos, alone. And when he had suffered that bondage, as the Valar had promised, he was brought again before them in conclave. He looked then upon the bliss and glory of the Valar, and malice was in his heart; he looked upon the fair Children of Ilúvatar that sat at the feet of the DoV-UM-03.5{gods}[Mighty], and hatred filled him; he looked upon the wealth of bright gems and lusted for them; but he hid his thoughts and postponed his vengeance.>
§48 Before the gates of {Valmar}[Valimar] ..... many hurts that he had DoV-UM-04 {wrought and now would work no more. His prayer Niënna aided, but Mandos was silent.}<LQ done to the world. His prayer Niënna aided, but the others were silent. DoV-UM-04.5 < AAm and Ulmo’s heart misgave him.>> Then Manwë granted ..... mind of Melkor forever.
Ulmo, it is said, was ...... themselves rebel.
DoV-UM-01: LQ changes
DoV-UM-02: Added description from the Sil77. Agreed
DoV-UM-02.2: VT addition. Agreed
DoV-UM-02.5: I have removed these additions, because they have been moved to Of Eldamar and the Princes of the Eldalie.
DoV-UM-02.7: same as 02.5
DoV-UM-03: LQ change
DoV-UM-03.5: a missed LQ change in Fin's text
DoV-UM-04: another missed LQ change
DoV-UM-04.5: an addition from AAm with added info.

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Of The Silmarils and the Unrest of the Noldor

§49 Most fair of all ...... But the Noldor took delight in the hidden knowledge
that he could reveal to them{;} DoV-UN-00.1 <OK {In Valinor} [for] Melkor used the Quenya with such mastery that all the Eldar were amazed, for his use could not be bettered, scarce equaled even, by the poets and the loremasters"{.}[,]> and some hearkened to words that it would have been better for them never to have heard.
§49a In after days ..... the wise, his wife.
§49b In that time, but before ..... last beyond the End.
Three jewels he made, and named them the Silmarils. {A living fire burned within them that} DoV-UN-00.2 < AAm But not until the End, when Fëanor shall return who perished when the Sun was young and sitteth now in the Halls of Awaiting and comes no more among his kin; not until Sun passeth and Moon falls shall it be known of what substance they were made. Like the crystal of diamonds it appeared and yet was more strong than adamant, so that no violence within the walls of this world could mar or break it. Yet that crystal was to the Silmarils but as is the body to the Children of Ilúvatar: the house of its inner fire, that is within it and yet in all parts of it, and is its life. And the inner fire of the Silmarils> was blended of the Light ...... that he himself had made.
§50 Then Melkor lusted ..... Valar, his brethren.
Therefore, whenever he saw ..... But he did this with cunning, so that few who heard these lies ever took them from his own lips: DoV-UN-00.3 <AAm but he that sows lies in the end shall not lack of a harvest, and soon he may rest from toil indeed, while others reap and sow in his stead>[; and so] they passed ..... open ears in days to come.
When he saw that ..... wide lands of the world.
In those days, moreover, ..... these evil words.
§51 Thus ere the Valar .... gift from the Valar.

DoV-UN-00.4 <UT Galadriel and her brother Finrod were the children of Finarfin, the second son of Indis. Finarfin was of his mother's kind in mind and body, having the golden hair of the Vanyar, their noble and gentle temper, and their love of the Valar. As well as he could he kept aloof from the strife of his brothers and their estrangement from the Valar, and he often sought peace among the Teleri, whose language he learned. He wedded Eärwen, the daughter of King Olwë of Alqualondë, and his children were thus the kin of King Elu Thingol of Doriath in Beleriand, for he was the brother of Olwë; and this kinship influenced their decision to join in the Exile, and proved of great importance later in Beleriand. Finrod was like his father in his fair face and golden hair, and also in noble and generous heart, though he had the high courage of the Noldor and in his youth their eagerness and unrest; and he had also from his Telerin mother a love of the sea and dreams of far lands that he had never seen. Galadriel was the greatest of the Noldor, except Fëanor maybe, though she was wiser than he, and her wisdom increased with the long years.
Her mother-name was Nerwen (‘man-maiden’), and she grew to be tall beyond the measure even of the women of the Noldor; she was strong of body, mind, and will, a match for both the loremasters and the athletes of the Eldar in the days of their youth. Even among the Eldar she was accounted beautiful, and her hair was held a marvel unmatched. It was golden like the hair of her father and of her foremother Indis, but richer and more radiant, for its gold was touched by some memory of the starlike silver of her mother; and the Eldar said that the light of the Two Trees, Laurelin and Telperion, had been snared in her tresses. Many thought that this saying first gave to Fëanor the thought of imprisoning and blending the light of the Trees that later took shape in his hands as the Silmarils. For Fëanor beheld the hair of Galadriel with wonder and delight. He begged three times for a tress, but Galadriel would not give him even one hair. These two kinsfolk, the greatest of the Eldar of Valinor, were unfriends forever.
Galadriel was born in the bliss of Valinor, but it was not long, in the reckoning of the Blessed Realm, before that was dimmed; and thereafter she had no peace within. For in that testing time amid the strife of the Noldor she was drawn this way and that. She was proud, strong, and selfwilled, as were all the descendants of Finwë save Finarfin; and like her brother Finrod, of all her kin the nearest to her heart, she had dreams of far lands and dominions that might be her own to order as she would without tutelage. Yet deeper still there dwelt in her the noble and generous spirit of the Vanyar, and a reverence for the Valar that she could not forget. From her earliest years she had a marvelous gift of insight into the minds of others, but judged them with mercy and understanding, and she withheld her goodwill from none save only Fëanor. In him she perceived a darkness that she hated and feared, though she did not perceive that the shadow of the same evil had fallen upon the minds of all the Noldor, and upon her own.>
DoV-UN-00.5 <UT She did indeed wish to depart from Valinor and to go into the wide world of Middle-earth for the exercise of her talents; for being brilliant in mind and swift in action she had early absorbed all of what she was capable of the teaching which the Valar thought fit to give the Eldar, and she felt confined in the tutelage of Aman. This desire of Galadriel's was, it seems, known to Manwë, and he had not forbidden her; but nor had she been given formal leave to depart. Pondering what she might do Galadriel's thoughts turned to the ships of the Teleri, and she went for a while to dwell with her mother's kindred in Alqualondë. DoV-UN-00.6{There she met Celeborn, who is here again a Telerin prince, the grandson of Olwë of Alqualondë and thus her close kinsman. Together they}There she planned to build a ship and sail in it to Middle-earth; and {they were}she planned {about} to seek leave from the Valar for {their}her venture.>

Fiercest burned the new flame ..... was not his own.
§52 High princes were ...... you forth from Túna!'
§52a It is told also ..... Valar also had been shut.
§52b but now the lords ...... work that he learned of Aulë.
§52c Thus with lies ......if they would follow him.

DoV-SF-01 <SF The Shibboleth of Fëanor>

DoV-SF-02 <SF The change þ > s {must therefore have been}was a conscious and deliberate change [in the Quenya] agreed to and accepted by a majority of the Noldor, however initiated, after the separation of their dwellings from the Vanyar. It {must have} occurred after the birth of Míriel, but {(probably)} before the birth of Fëanor. The special connection of these two persons with the change and its later history needs some consideration.
The change was a general one, based primarily on phonetic 'taste’ and theory, but it had not yet become universal. It was attacked by the loremasters, [Footnote: They continued to deplore it, and were able to insist later that the distinction between older þ and s should at least always be preserved in writing.] who pointed out that the damage this merging would do in confusing stems and their derivatives that had been distinct in sound and sense had not yet been sufficiently considered. The chief of the linguistic loremasters at that time was Fëanor. He insisted that þ was the true pronunciation for all who cared for or fully understood their language. But in addition to linguistic taste and wisdom he had other motives. He was the eldest of Finwë’s sons and the only child of his first wife Míriel.> DoV-SF-03 <SF She was {therefore} called Þerindë (Needlewoman) {- a name which she had indeed already been given as a 'mother-name’. She}[, and she] adhered to the pronunciation þ (it had still been usual in her childhood), {and she desired}desiring that all her kin should adhere to it also, at the least in the pronunciation of her name.>
DoV-SF-04 <SF Into the strife and confusion of loyalties in that time this seemingly trivial matter, the change of þ to s, was caught up to its embitterment, and to lasting detriment to the Quenya tongue. Had peace been maintained there can be no doubt that the advice of Fëanor, with which all the other lore- masters privately or openly agreed, would have prevailed. But an opinion in which he was certainly right was rejected because of the follies and evil deeds into which he was later led. He made it a personal matter: he and his sons adhered to þ, and they demanded that all those who were sincere in their support should do the same. Therefore, those who resented his arrogance, and still more those whose support later turned to hatred, rejected his shibboleth.
Indis was a Vanya, and it might be thought that she would in this point at least have pleased Fëanor, since the Vanyar adhered to þ. Nonetheless Indis adopted s. Not as Fëanor believed in belittlement of Míriel, but in loyalty to Finwë. For after the rejection of his prayers by Míriel Finwë accepted the change (which had now become almost universal among his people), although in deference to Míriel he had adhered to þ while she lived. Therefore Indis said: 'I have joined the people of the Noldor, and I will speak as they do.' So it came about that to Fëanor the rejection of þ became a symbol of the rejection of Míriel, and of himself, her son, as the chief of the Noldor next to Finwë. This, as his pride grew and his mood darkened, he thought was a 'plot' of the Valar, inspired by fear of his powers, to oust him and give the leadership of the Noldor to those more servile. So Fëanor would call himself Son of the Þerinde, and when his sons in their childhood asked why their kin in the house of Finwë used s for þ he answered: 'Take no heed! We speak as is right, and as King Finwë himself did before he was led astray. We are his heirs by right and the elder house. Let them sa-si, if they can speak no better.'>
DoV-SF-05 <SF The change to s had become general among the Noldor long before the birth of Galadriel and no doubt was familiar to her. Her father Finarfin, however, loved the Vanyar (his mother's people) and the Teleri, and in his house þ was used, Finarfin being moved by Fëanor neither one way or the other but doing as he wished. It is clear nonetheless that opposition to Fëanor soon became a dominant motive with Galadriel, while her pride did not take the form of wishing to be different from her own people. So while she knew well the history of their tongue and all the reasons of the loremasters, she certainly used s in her own daily speech.>
DoV-SF-06 <SF{the}The older þ was always kept distinct in writing from {original}[the] s. This in Exilic conditions, which made necessary the writing down anew from memory of many of the pre-Exilic works of lore and song, [Footnote: Few of these can have been carried from Valinor, and fewer still can have survived the journey to Middle-earth; but the memory of the loremasters was prodigious and accurate.] implies a continuing memory of the sound þ, and the places in which it had previously occurred; also probably a dislike of the change to s in the colloquial Quenya on the part of the scholars. It is in any case impossible to believe that any of the Noldor ever became unfamiliar with the sound þ as such. In Valinor they dwelt between the Vanyar (Ingwi) and the Teleri (Lindar), with whom they were in communication and sometimes intermarried. The Vanyar spoke virtually the same language (Quenya) and retained þ in daily use; the Teleri spoke a closely related language still largely intelligible to the Noldor, [Footnote: Without special study. But many of the Noldor could speak Telerin and vice versa. There were in fact some borrowings from one to another; of which the most notable was the general use of the Telerin form telpë 'silver’ for pure Quenya tyelpë.] and it also used þ. The Noldor were, even compared with other Eldar, talented linguists, and if þ did not occur in the language that they learned in childhood - which could only be the case with the youngest generations of those who set out from Aman - they would have had no difficulty in acquiring it.>

§52d Then there was great unrest ..... honor thy words!'
§52e But even as he spoke, ..... my wrath no longer!'
§52f Then Fingolfin bowed ..... master of thralls.'
§52g These words were ...... Finarfin his brother.
§52h The unrest of the Noldor ..... did not suffice.
§53 But now the deeds of Fëanor ...... of their own to declare.
§53a Then Mandos set Fëanor ...... judgement he scorned.
§53b But when all was said, ...... the life of his kinsman.
§53c Therefore Mandos said ...... will release thee.'
§53d Then Fingolfin rose ...... though this had been little to the liking of Fëanor. DoV-UN-01 <LT 1; VI A little stream, and its name was Híri, ran down from the hills, northward of the opening to the coast where {Kor}[Tirion] was built, and it wandered thence across the plain no one knew whither. Maybe it found the Outer Seas, for {north of the roots of Silpion}> {Northward}[northward] in Valinor, in the hills near to the halls of Mandos, <LT 1; VI it dove into the earth and there was a rugged place and a rock-ringed dale; and here the DoV-UN-02 {Noldoli}[People of Fëanor] purposed to abide, or rather to await the passing of DoV-UN-03 {wrath from Manwe's heart}[the twelve years], for in no way as yet would they accept the thought of leaving {Kor}[Tirion] forever.
Caves they made in the walls of that dale, and thither they bore their wealth of gems, of gold and silver and fair things; but their ancient homes in {Kor}[Tirion] were empty of their voices, filled only with their paintings and their books of lore>. Fëanor and his sons made a strong place and a treasury at Formenos, DoV-UN-04 [as that dale was named,] and they laid in hoard ..... and the sons of Indis.
§54 Worse now befell. In ...... the trammels of the Valar.
'Behold the truth ..... folk of Arda.'
Now Fëanor’s heart ...... realm of the Valar!'
Then the fires of ..... dwellers in Eä.
Then Melkor departed ...... Manwë in Valimar.
DoV-UN-00.1: This addition from the Ossanwe Kenta fits nicely here, but if we are including the full text of this in the appendix, should we leave this out?
DoV-UN-00.2: This is an addition from AAm to expand.
DoV-UN-00.3: This proverb is an addition from AAm
DoV-UN-00.4: This is an addition about Galadriel from the SF. Agreed
DoV-UN-00.5: This is an addition about Galadriel from the UT. Agreed
DoV-UN-00.6: I changed the wording from "she was about to seek leave" to "she planned to seek leave" because in the original, it is only the first part of a sentence that says she was about to seek leave when the Flight of the Noldor happened. This just flows better.

DoV-SF-01: I tried to add in all the pertinent Shibboleth linguistic info that was relevant to the story, and I figured we might as well take up the subheading as well.
DoV-SF-02: This first paragraph is edited to make it work as an opening paragraph. The given opening is Tolkien speculating, and is not usable.
DoV-SF-03: Edited out the Mother-name info, since it is inserted in the Finwe and Miriel section.
DoV-SF-04: I skipped the entire summary of the Finwe Miriel plotline and jumped to the shibboleth.
DoV-SF-05: This is the last relevant section, about Galadriel specifically.
DoV-SF-06: This is from the first section, and as it had interesting information, I figured I would add it there.

With that we return to the base chapter.
DoV-UN-01: LT expansion for detail. Agreed
DoV-UN-02: Fin used Feanorians here, but I think People of Feanor is safer.
DoV-UN-03: change bc of the later conception. Agreed
DoV-UN-04: added in order to introduce the name Formenos. Agreed

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Of the Darkening of Valinor

§55 Now the Valar ...... towards Araman.'
Thus Melkor departed ...... evil that yet might come.
§55a When Manwë heard ...... the northern fences of Aman.
§55b This indeed Melkor ...... soon to lose forever.
§55c Thus unseen he ...... hungered for light and hated it.
§55d In a ravine she ...... or will to depart.
§56 Now Melkor sought ...... Utumno and Angband.
§56a ‘Come forth!' ...... set his lure for the lesser.
§56b Slowly {Ungoliantë}[Ungoliant] ..... gloated upon the gems.
§56c There in the black ....... Arda, great or small.
§56d ‘Come then!' he ...... the pathless Sea.
§57 But now upon the ...... down into the Blessed Realm.
§57a Still in the dark ...... Avathar and went to do his will.
§58 Now it was a time ..... clothe themselves in the forms of the Children of Ilúvatar, DoV-DV-00.5{[Footnote: As is told in the ‘Ainulindalë'.]} so also they ...... under Eru they had made.
Therefore Yavanna set ...... the first gathering of fruits, and this was held DoV-DV-01 [in Valimar and ]upon Taniquetil; for Manwë decreed ...... in music and song.
§58a DoV-DV-02 {This day}[These days] had now come once more, ....... wilt be honored in my hall.'
DoV-DV-03 <BoLT 1; VI {Gods}[Valar] and Elves ...... At places mighty trees grew on either side, or at places the road would open to a glade and fountains spring DoV-DV-03.5{by magic} high into the air for the refreshment of all who sped that way.
Now came the {Teleri}[Vanyar] led by the white-robed people of DoV-DV-04 [Ingwë,] the {Inwir}[Ingwi], and the throbbing of their congregated harps beat the air most sweetly; and after them went the {Noldoli}[Noldor] DoV-DV-05 {mingling once more with their own dear folk by Manwë’s clemency, that his festival might be duly kept,} but the music that their viols and instruments awoke was now more sweetly sad than ever before.{ And last came the people of the shores, and their piping blent with voices brought the sense of tides and murmurous waves and the wailing cry of the coast-loving birds thus inland deep upon the plain.}
Then was all that ....... This had DoV-DV-06 [Salmar] Lirillo written and taught them, ...... company passed through.
There Varda met them, standing amid the companies of the DoV-DV-07 {Manir and the Suruli}[Maiar], and all the {Gods}[Valar] made them welcome, and feasts there were in all the great halls thereafter.
Now their custom was ....... of Ilúvatar, and of things to be and that had been.> DoV-DV-08 <BoLT 1;VI And on that day would {Kor}[Tirion] and Valimar ....... and so would end the days of DoV-DV-09 {Double Mirth}[mirth].
§58b DoV-DV-10 {There}[On the third day there] came the Vanyar, ....... not touched them, as yet.
§58c One thing only marred ...... and I will not meet my people DoV-DV-11 <AAm , nor those that rule in my stead>.' And Fëanor did not come ...... locked in a chamber of iron.
Nonetheless he met ....... no grievance.'
Then Fëanor took ...... May no new grief divide us!'
'I hear thee,’ said .... words would bear.
§58d It is told that even ....... And still {Ungoliantë}[Ungoliant] thirsted; and she went to the great Wells of {Varda} DoV-DV-12 [Culullin and Silindrin] and drained them dry. And as she drank ...... and did not mean to keep.
§58e Outside he had lurked, ....... down the thrones of the Valar.
§58f Then he went on ...... have hidden from her.
§59 So the great Darkness ..... mind and strangle the very will.
§59a Varda looked down ...... against the walls of the shore.
§59b Then Manwë went up ....... and his vengeance was achieved.
DoV-DV-00.5: This is in our version in the first chapter, so I see no reason for the footnote.
DoV-DV-01: This was changed because of the addition of the Lost Tales expansion. Agreed.
DoV-DV-02: same as 01. Agreed
DoV-DV-03: This is the expansion from Lost Tales.
DoV-DV-03.5: Removed because of the magic problems.
DoV-DV-04: As the term Ingwi has not occurred in the text before, I added Ingwe in as an explanation, and updated the Inwir term of LT to the Shibboleth Ingwi.
DoV-DV-05: The statement about the Noldor and the Teleri must be removed because of the changed conception.
DoV-DV-06: Personally, I would say "Salmar Lirillo" and leave the surname in, as nothing in later writings denies the name's existence, and we have left his other surname of Noldorin in the second chapter.
DoV-DV-07: Change because of the Maiar concept. Agreed
DoV-DV-08: Next LT addition. Agreed
DoV-DV-09: I am not sure why the LT name was removed. In the new conception, no name is given to the festival, so I see no reason not to use this as the name.
DoV-DV-10: edited to conform with LT addition. Agreed
DoV-DV-11: AAm addition. Agreed
DoV-DV-12: Change based on the second chapter, edited from what Fin had proposed originally based on the final version of chapter 2.

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Of the Rape of the Silmarils

§1 When the Trees should ..... But it was not so.
§2 For Yavanna spoke before the Valar, saying DoV-RS-01 {...}<AAm : 'The Light of the Trees hath gone hence, and liveth now only in the jewels of Fëanor. Foresighted was he. Lo! for those even who are mightiest there is some deed that they may accomplish once, and once only. The Light of the Trees I brought into being, and can do so never again within Ea. Yet had I but a little of that Light, I could recall life to the Trees, ere their roots die; and then our hurt should be healed, and the malice of Melkor be confounded.'
§3 And Manwë spoke, and said, ‘Hearest thou, Fëanor, the words of Yavanna? Wilt thou grant what she would ask?'
And there was a long silence, but Fëanor DoV-RS-02 {answered no word}<LQ2 made no answer>.
Then Tulkas cried: ‘Speak, O Noldo, yea or nay! But who shall deny Yavanna? And did not the light of the Silmarils come from her work in the beginning?'
But Aulë the Maker said, Be not hasty! We ask a greater thing than thou knowest. Let him have peace yet a while.'>
§4 But Fëanor spoke then, and cried bitterly DoV-RS-03 {...}<AAm : 'Verily for the less even as for the greater there is some deed that he may accomplish but once only. And in that deed his heart shall rest. Mayhap I can unlock my jewels, but never again shall I make their like; and if they be broken, then broken will be my heart, and I shall DoV-RS-04 {die}<LQ2 be slain>: first of all the Children of Eru <editorial addition in Aman>.'
§5 'Not the first,' quoth Mandos, ...... of their kindred.’
§6 'Thou hast spoken,' said ...... of the Marring of Arda.
§7 But even as she ..... full tale was told.
§8 ‘My lord,’ said {Maedhros}[Maedros] ..... house of Fëanor.
§9 ‘We heard the sound ...... all wit and will.
§10 'Darkness and blood! When we ..... The Silmarils are taken!'
§11 Then suddenly Fëanor ..... fathers of greater worth?
§12 After him {Maedhros}[Maedros] ...... from beyond Arda.
The Silmarils had passed away, ...... Noldor drew near.
DoV-RS-01: Expanding using the account in AAm. Agreed
DoV-RS-02: I see no real reason for this change, but I also have no issue with it.
DoV-RS-03: Expansion using AAm again. Agreed.
DoV-RS-04: This has to be changed because LQ was a correction to a mistake he made, and my editorial addition is added because it is said that weapons were brought to the Elves in Middle-earth because they were being hunted by the monsters of Morgoth, so they have been slain before.

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Of the Thieves' Quarrel

§13 Meanwhile, it is told, ..... as the Ice drew nearer.
§14 Through this dim land ..... he should now fulfill his promise.
§15 'Black-heart!' she said ...... Open your right hand!'
§16 In his right hand Morgoth ..... shall burn thee forever!'
§17 But {Ungoliantë}[Ungoliant] was ..... as of voices in anguish.
§18 But the cry of Morgoth ..... as a tempest of fire.
§19 Then Ungoliant quailed, ..... he returned to Angband.
§20 But Ungoliant went into ...... she devoured herself at last.
§21 Thus ended the Thieves' Quarrel; ...... the power of Morgoth.
Now Morgoth, having achieved ...... they crept back to him.
Then swiftly they began to delve anew the vast vaults of Angband and to uplift its pillared halls of stone amid smoke and fire, and above them were reared the reeking towers of Thangorodrim. DoV-TQ-01 <AAm There countless became the hosts of his beasts and his demons; and thence there now came forth in hosts beyond count the fell race of the Orkor, that had grown and multiplied in the bowels of the earth like a plague. These creatures Morgoth bred in envy and mockery of the Eldar. In form they were like unto the Children of Ilúvatar, yet foul to look upon; for they were bred in hatred, and with hatred they were filled; and he loathed the things that he had wrought, and with loathing they served him. Their voices were as the clashing of stones, and they laughed not save only at torment and cruel deeds. The Glamhoth, host of tumult, the Noldor called them. (Orcs we may name them; for in days of old they were strong and fell as demons. Yet they were not of demon kind, but children of earth corrupted by Morgoth, and they could be slain or destroyed by the valiant with weapons of war.) {[But indeed a darker tale some yet tell in Eressea, saying that the Orcs were verily in their beginning of the Quendi themselves, a kindred of the Avari unhappy whom Morgoth cozened, and then made captive, and so enslaved them, and so brought them utterly to ruin.[Footnote: Quoth Ælfwine.] For, saith Pengolod, Melkor could never since the Ainulindalë make of his own aught that had life or the semblance of life, and still less might he do so after his treachery in Valinor and the fullness of his own corruption.]}
§128 Dark now fell the shadow on Beleriand, as elsewhere is told; but in Angband Morgoth forged for himself a great crown of iron; and he called himself King of the World. In token of which he set the Silmarils in his crown. His evil hands were burned black by the touch of those hallowed jewels, and black they have been ever since; and he was never again free from the pain of the burning DoV-TQ-02 <QS , and the anger of the pain>. The crown he never took from his head, though its weight became a weariness unto torment; and never but once only, while his realm lasted, did he depart for a while secretly from his domain in the North. And once only also did he himself wield weapon, until the Last Battle. For now, more than in the days of Utumno ere his pride was humbled, his hatred devoured him, and in the domination of his servants and the inspiring of them with lust of evil, he spent his spirit. Nonetheless his majesty as one of the Valar long remained, though turned to terror, and before his face all save the mightiest sank into a dark pit of fear.>
DoV-TQ-01: AAm expansion. Agreed
DoV-TQ-02: QS detail added in. Agreed


If I have missed anything in this (very long) post, feel free to let me know, and I will add it in. I would say that taking the discussion section by section is best, so as not to be inundated with comments.

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