Nice guess, Lindir, but it doesn't appear that those two ladies had that profound an effect on their respective husbands!
I'm sorry, but finding this answer will take some researching in the biography.
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'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth..
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