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Old 09-20-2004, 12:48 PM   #93
Late Istar
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Aiwendil has been trapped in the Barrow!
VE-11: I suppose that if we agree that the poem ought not to be used here, there's no point in continuing to debate its meaning (not yet, anyway).

As for the Door of Night: Tolkien still considered it valid in 1937 when he added it back to QS. As far as I recall, the old conception was that the Door of Night was not made until Melkor was cast out; but Tolkien's additions to QS have it existing before then. If it's not mentioned anywhere else in the narrative then there can be no contradiction.

Which Myths Transformed texts are you referring to? We're not using that cosmology in any case.
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