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The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 01-08-2003, 10:56 AM

I would say, Gwaihir, that the fact of all the Ainur being sprung from Eru leads us to another conclusion as well: perhaps Eru intended for Morgoth to mar Arda, so that the presence of evil could lead virtue to shine the brighter. This theme does seem to me to run through the description of the Music.

As for Orcs possessing true existence, it would have been a major departure from the rules. Obviously Eru, being the fount of law, could do it, but wouldn't Tolkien have seen fit to record that?

Any thoughts

[ January 08, 2003: Message edited by: Squatter of Amon Rudh ]

01-08-2003, 10:56 AM	#6
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,184	I would say, Gwaihir, that the fact of all the Ainur being sprung from Eru leads us to another conclusion as well: perhaps Eru intended for Morgoth to mar Arda, so that the presence of evil could lead virtue to shine the brighter. This theme does seem to me to run through the description of the Music. As for Orcs possessing true existence, it would have been a major departure from the rules. Obviously Eru, being the fount of law, could do it, but wouldn't Tolkien have seen fit to record that? Any thoughts [ January 08, 2003: Message edited by: Squatter of Amon Rudh ] __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?