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To Obluquy and The Captain of Despair, Hi. Just a few things to add to this marvelous ongoing discussion. Firstly, Tolkien does use Prophecy as Doom, once uttered it is carved in stone, in his world no other thing will happen but The Prophecy. Secondly concerning Gandalf and Sauron. There are a number of things to think of here. Why did Manwe want Olorin to go so badly, why did Varda and Cirdan perceive him to be greater than Saruman. What we also must remember is that this is not Sauron of The First or Second Age, this is a much weakened Sauron, Gandalf the Grey would have struggled, maybe Gandalf the White wouldnt. However in saying all this, I personally think that the reason Gandalf was sent was for his inner qualities, his ability to move mens hearts, to defy the darkness, in this he was a match for Sauron, he matched hope against despair and won. I dont think it was Gandalf`s part to fight openly against Sauron, in fact the Istari had been forbidden to, so we will never know.
NOMOREIHERE
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