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Ring Genealogies of the Eldar

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Starting with the simplest:

(Note FN = 'father name', MN = 'mother name', AN = 'aftername'); I have left out certain variant spellings of names and some of the very old ones such as Lost Tales variants (eg Tinwelint for Elwe or Turondo for Turgon).)

The House of Ingwe
The names of Ingwe's parents are unknown.
Ingwe had a sister. In HoME 10 she is Indis who later wed Finwe. In HoME 12 she is not named but Indis is her daughter (and thus Ingwe's niece).
The name of Ingwe's wife is unknown.
Ingwe is attested to as having an unspecified number of children (HoME 10) of which only one is named.
This was a son whose name went through various incarnations.
The last was Ingwion as noted in HoME 11. This was changed from Ingwiel (see also HoME 5). Earlier he was nmed Ingil and Ingwil (see HoME 4). What could be interesting is keeping the abandoned names as other children of Ingwe.


The House of Finwe:
The names of Finwe's parents are not known.
Finwe Noleme Noldoran had two wives.
The first was Miriel Serinde (her parents are not named).
She bore Finwe one son: Kurufinwe Feanaro (Feanor).
Feanor had to wife Nerdanel.
Nerdanel's father is commonly named Mahtan but also named Sarmo and Urundil (HoME 12). Her mother is not named.
Feanor and Nerdanel had seven children.
1). Maedhros (also named: Nelyafinwe (FN), Nelyo (FN), Maitimo (MN), Maedron (MN) and Russandol (AN)(HoME 12)) was the eldest. He was unmarried.
2). Maglor (also named Kanafinwe (FN), Kano (FN), Makalaure (MN) and Maelor (HoME 10 and 12)). He was wedded but his wife is not named.
3). Celegorm (Turkafinwe (FN), Turko (FN) and Tyelkormo (MN) and Celegorn (HoME 11 and 12)). He had no wife.
4). Curufin (Kurufinwe (FN), Kurvo (FN) and Atarinke (MN) (HoME 12)). He had an unnamed wife, who remained in Amn (HoME 12). Their son was Celebrimbor (Celebrinbaur, Tyelpinquar (HoME 12)).
5). Caranthir (Morifinwe (FN), Moryo (FN) and Carnistir (MN) (HoME 12). He was married but his wife is not named (HoME 12).
6 or 7). Amrod (Pityafinwe (FN), Pityo (FN) Ambarussa (MN) Umbarto (MN) and Ambarto (Ambarto was changed from Umbarto by Feanor) (HoME 12)). He was not wed.
7 or 6). Amras (Telufinwe (FN), Telvo (FN), Ambarussa (MN) HoME 12)). He had no wife.
Note that Amrod and Amras were twins (HoME 12) and JRRT reversed their birth positions (so that Amrod should be last), which might indicate that their father names (FN) should be switched (Telufinwe means 'Last Finwe'). Amrod was burned to death at Losgar when Feanor set the white ships of the Teleri on fire (HoME 12).
Gil-galad is noted as a descendent of Feanor in HoME 5 and in some drafts of LotR (see HoME 6 and 7). His parantage is not stated.

Finwe's second wife was Indis. Her parents are not named, but she is the sister of Ingwe (in HoME 10) or the daughter of his sister (HoME 12). They had five (HoME 10) or four (HoME 12) children.
Findis, a daughter, is first. She did not leave Valinor and dwelt among the Vanyar (HoME 10 and 12).
Fingolfin (Nolofinwe (FN), Arakano (MN) Finwenolofinwe (AN) and Ingoldo (abandoned MN) (HoME 10 and 12)) was second. He had Anaire to wife, she remained in Aman (HoME 11 and 12). They had four children.
Fingon (Finicano, Findicano, Findecano (HoME 12)). He is noted as having a wife (unnamed) and two children Erien (Ernis) and Finbor (HoMe 12). He is noted as having a son, Findor Gil-galad (HoME 11). He is noted as having neither wife nor child (HoME 12).
He is noted as having a son, Findobar (Findabar) (HoME 5).
Turgon (Turukano). His wife was Elenwe of the Vanyar (who died on the Helcarxe). They had one child, a daughter, Idril (Itaril, Itarille, Itarilde (HoME 12), Irilde (HoME 11)) Celebrindal (AN). She wed Tuor and their son was Earendil (FN) Ardamire (MN), who wed Elwing of the House of Elwe. There children are Elrond (who wedded Celbrian daughter of Celeborn and Galadriel) and Elros.
Aredhel Ar-Feiniel (Irisse, Ireth, Isfin, HoME 11, 12 et al) was Fingolfin's third child. She was taken to wife by Eol (who was kin (unspecified) to Elwe). They had one son, Maeglin (FN) Lomion (MN) (HoME 11).
Arakano was Fingolfin's youngest, he died at the Battle of Lammoth (HoME 12)
Irime (FN) (Irien, Finvain (FN)) Lalwende (Lalwen) (MN) (HoME 10 and 12) was Finwe's second daughter (HoME 12). She went into exile with Fingolfin. Her ultimate fate is not recorded. (Note that orginally she was the third daughter (HoME 10) but JRRT reversed this).
Finarfin (Arafinwe (FN), Ingoldo (MN replacing Ingalaure), Finwe-arafinwe (AN) (HoME 12)). He wed Earwen daughter of Olwe. They had five or four (HoME 12) children.
1). Finrod Felagund (AN) (Findarato (FN), Ingoldo (MN), Artafinde (FN) (HoME 12) Inglor (HoME 11 et.al.). He had no wife. But variously he had a son, Artanaro Rhodothir (Orodreth) (HoME 12) or he had to wife Meril of Eglorest and their son was Gil-galad (HoME 11). Or he had an unnamed wife and and their son was Finellach (FN) Gil-galad (AN) (HoME 12). In one version Galadriel (not in keeping with LotR or RGEO) and Gil-galad were both his children (HoME 12). Gil-galad is mentioned as his son elsewhere in HoME as well.
2 or not at all). Orodreth (Rodreth, Artaresto) was the second son of Finarfin (HoME 10 and 11 et al). He had a daughter named Finduilas.
3) or 2). Angrod (Angarato (FN), Arato (FN), Angamaite (AN)Artanga (HoME 12)). He had to wife Eldalote (Edhellos) (HoME 12). They had one son, Artaher (Arothir, Artaresto, Rodreth/Orodreth (AN). The children of Artaher were Finduilas and Artanaro (Rodnor) Gil-galad.
4) or 3). Aegnor (Ambarato (FN) Aikanaro (MN) (HoME 12). He was unwed (and belved of the mortal Andreth).
5) or 4) or not). Galadriel (Artanis (FN) Nerwen (Nerwende) (MN), Alatariel (Alaterielle, Altariel, Naltariel) (AN) (HoME 12, UT). She was wedded to Celeborn (of various descents). They had one child Celebrian, who wedded Elrond son of Earendil and Elwing. Or they had two children Celebrian and Amroth (see UT for this abandoned version).
Faniel (HoME 10 and 12) was the second daughter (HoME 10) and then the third daughter (HoME 10, 12) and youngest child of Finwe and Indis (she and Irime were switched). She also seems to have then been dropped from the genealogy (HoME 12). She remained in Aman.
Finrun Felageomor is a noted as a fourth child (HoME 4)

The House of Elwe
The parents of Elwe and his brothers Olwe and Elmo are not named.
Elwe Singollo (Elu, Thingol (AN) had to wife Melian the Maia. They had one daughter, Luthien Tinuviel (in an early version Daeron was their son).
Luthien was wed to Beren Erchamion. They had one child.
Dior Aranel Eluchil. He wed Nimloth (Elulin, Lindis (HoME 11) daughter of Galathil, grandson of Elmo. They had three children.
Elured and Elurin were their sons who were lost (slain/died) after the ruin of Doriath and death of Dior.
Elwing the White was there daughter, she wedded Earendi and bore him two sons Elrond (who wedded Celebrian) and Elros.
Olwe Ciriaran (HoME 12) had an unnamed wife and an unspecified number of children (HoME 10), only one of which is named.
Earwen was the daughter of Olwe. She wedded Finarfin and bore him 4 or 5 children.
Teleporno (UT, HoME 12) is the grandson of Olwe. His parents are not named. (In a late version) he wedded Galadriel (though of course this was aginst the laws of the Eldar, they were first cousins and the Eldar did not wed with kin that close (Sil.)) and not in keeping with LotR or RGEO.
Elmo (UT), brother of Elwe and Olwe, has an unnamed wife. She bore him at least one son.
Galadhon, son of Elmo, has an unnamed wife. She bore him two sons (UT).
Celeborn who wedded Galadriel they had a daughter, Celebrian, who wedded Elrond son of Earendil and Elwing.
Galathil (UT) who had an unnamed wife who bore him a daughter.
Nimloth (Lindis, Elulin (HoME 11) who wedded Dior son of Luthien and Beren. She bore him three children (Elured, Elurin, and Elwing).
A couple of other notes:
Cirdan and Eol are both noted to be kin to Elwe (Sil. and HoME). What this kinship is is not stated.
Celeborn refers to Legolas as kin (LotR). Oropher and his son Thranduil (father of Legolas) came from Doriath and if kin to Celeborn they should be kin to Elwe. It is possible that they were descended from Elmo.
Amroth has various descents. The most final versions make him the son of Amdir/Malgalad (UT). In one version he is the son of Celeborn and Galadriel (UT). In one version he is the brother of Celeborn (HoME 12) (though it is not stated if he is the son Galadhon or if Celeborn is the son of Amdir).


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