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Findegil · 09-12-2015, 05:29 PM

To take the Lost Tale verssion of the conversation between Tuor and Turgon is out of question as the discussion stands now.

We have Aiwendil's last outline:
- Tuor bids Turgon prepare for a war against Morgoth, describes the means of preparing (alliances with the Feanorians and with men of the east, probable succour from the Valar), and describes the consequences of such a war (a terrible battle but a chance for real victory).
- Tuor further says that if Turgon refuses this counsel, then he should abandon Gondolin and seek refuge at the mouths of Sirion.
- Idril and Turgon's wise councillors speak in favour of this (the latter) advice.
- Turgon refuses both the first counsel and the second counsel.

I have right now no time to try that out, but I would propose that we could serve the result of the discussion better, if we could avoid that abandon Gondolin is only the counsel if Turgon will not prepare for war.

The essay Glorfindel might be an ingredent in a part of the second age material but for sure not in FoG.

Respectfuly
Findegil

09-12-2015, 05:29 PM	#165
Findegil King's Writer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,694	To take the Lost Tale verssion of the conversation between Tuor and Turgon is out of question as the discussion stands now. We have Aiwendil's last outline: - Tuor bids Turgon prepare for a war against Morgoth, describes the means of preparing (alliances with the Feanorians and with men of the east, probable succour from the Valar), and describes the consequences of such a war (a terrible battle but a chance for real victory). - Tuor further says that if Turgon refuses this counsel, then he should abandon Gondolin and seek refuge at the mouths of Sirion. - Idril and Turgon's wise councillors speak in favour of this (the latter) advice. - Turgon refuses both the first counsel and the second counsel. I have right now no time to try that out, but I would propose that we could serve the result of the discussion better, if we could avoid that abandon Gondolin is only the counsel if Turgon will not prepare for war. The essay Glorfindel might be an ingredent in a part of the second age material but for sure not in FoG. Respectfuly Findegil Last edited by Findegil; 09-12-2015 at 05:36 PM.