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Old 06-06-2001, 05:11 PM   #7
Tar Elenion
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Re: Feanor,Turin and the Second Prophecy of Mandos

The major problem with Turin returning and slaying Morgoth is that Turin was a Man who had already died, the only example of a Man returning from death is Beren which was only shortly after his death before his actual 'seeking elsewhither' (before he had departed from Mandos and left the Circles of the World), and was allowed only by a direct act of Eru. Turin would have long since 'sought elsewhere' (left the Circles of the World). The other problem is that Turin becomes a 'god' (along with Nienor) after this. These may be why JRRT abandoned the Second Prophecy (or this portion of it), and thought of replacing it with Turin returning at the end of the First Age and then slaying the Great Dragon and then 'seeking elsewhither'.

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