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Old 03-13-2018, 08:57 PM   #13
Galin
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Originally Posted by R.R.J Tolkien View Post
Tolkien took allot of notes and changed drastically during his creation, unless it is published be careful to take it as gospel.
Actually my definition of Tolkien canon is "published work by the author", but anyway...

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This brings up the issue of of Christopher is cannon, my op does make that assumption.
And even though I would disagree as far as employing the word canon here, with respect to taking into account everything that Tolkien wrote about Balrogs (you even quote from The Lost Tales in your original post), well, that's where this marginal note and revision come in.


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However regarding his supposed changing ideas on balrogs, i do not think it is so I will paste from my op.
You are free to hold that opinion obviously, but no one knows for sure, not even Christopher Tolkien. And in my opinion Christopher Tolkien arguably took this note into account: in other words, for the 1977 constructed Silmarillion, it seems to me that CJRT altered those instances where Tolkien referred to very many Balrogs to allow for the possibility that this idea might have been a factor in any later, full QS revision.

Tolkien's marginal note described an actual number: three, at most seven, but the revision to Annals of Aman reads:
"a host of Balrogs" > "his Balrogs"

In any case I think we can safely say that at this point in time (when JRRT writes the note and makes this revision) Tolkien was thinking of drastically reducing Balrog numbers.

For some reason

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