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**lindil** · 01-23-2001, 10:32 AM

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imladris

I don't think Elrond's powers would lie in that direction . Even Galadriel who was a beloved pupil and in-law to Melian could not keep Orcs [ or Gollum] out of Lothlorien , her enchantment there was largely the ring's power to slow time down to a trickle.
I have always assumed [rings aside -which they were at that point] that Galadriel was far more powerful tham Elrond . She lived in valinor and recv'd tutelage from the Valar and Maia [esp. Melian in Doriath] was thousands of years older.
They were under seige I think for a couple of years, so yeah, it was a rough path to negotiate ,but 2 years is more than enough time to master the lay of the land and move your troops as close as you dare. From the pictures it just doesn't look as if the N/S/W approaches were impossible to come down.

The only thing that comes to my mind is that they had thousands of Elves defending the place with millions of made each month. I know of no instance of elven magic used to keep armies at bay indefinetly.

Lindil is often found on posting on the New Silmarillion Canon Forum at the Barrowdowns discussion board. 'The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night, and awaken early before dawn- exchanging lore and wisdom such as they possessed , so that they should not fall back into the mean and low estate of those , who never knew or more sadly still, had indeed rebelled against the Light.' </p>

01-23-2001, 10:32 AM	#5
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,681	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Shade of Carn Dûm Posts: 314</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> imladris I don't think Elrond's powers would lie in that direction . Even Galadriel who was a beloved pupil and in-law to Melian could not keep Orcs [ or Gollum] out of Lothlorien , her enchantment there was largely the ring's power to slow time down to a trickle. I have always assumed [rings aside -which they were at that point] that Galadriel was far more powerful tham Elrond . She lived in valinor and recv'd tutelage from the Valar and Maia [esp. Melian in Doriath] was thousands of years older. They were under seige I think for a couple of years, so yeah, it was a rough path to negotiate ,but 2 years is more than enough time to master the lay of the land and move your troops as close as you dare. From the pictures it just doesn't look as if the N/S/W approaches were impossible to come down. The only thing that comes to my mind is that they had thousands of Elves defending the place with millions of made each month. I know of no instance of elven magic used to keep armies at bay indefinetly. Lindil is often found on posting on the New Silmarillion Canon Forum at the Barrowdowns discussion board. 'The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night, and awaken early before dawn- exchanging lore and wisdom such as they possessed , so that they should not fall back into the mean and low estate of those , who never knew or more sadly still, had indeed rebelled against the Light.' </p> __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.