[samrohan]

I agree about him surely having noticed some troops but most of them appear to have been 'created' in the depths of the foundations lying around Orthanc. These crevasses appear to be where PJ has placed the Uruks. Tolkien always left this a little vague in the books, and PJ created a lovely nest of crevasses in the surroundings of Orthanc which subsequently get drowned by the ENTS.<BR>They probably could have contained so many Orcs, and don’t forget that Saruman was one of the greatest wizards.