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**The Saucepan Man** · 01-31-2003, 12:20 PM

I wouldn't have thought that Gollum, or any Humans/Hobbits, would be eligible for entry to the Halls of Mandos. I was suggesting that Orcs might be admitted on the basis that they (or their forbears) were originally Elves.

And at the risk of starting another general debate on free will ( [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] ), their ancestors never really had much of a choice, did they? They were just taken by Melkor and corrupted by him.

[ January 31, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

01-31-2003, 12:20 PM	#18
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,468	I wouldn't have thought that Gollum, or any Humans/Hobbits, would be eligible for entry to the Halls of Mandos. I was suggesting that Orcs might be admitted on the basis that they (or their forbears) were originally Elves. And at the risk of starting another general debate on free will ( [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] ), their ancestors never really had much of a choice, did they? They were just taken by Melkor and corrupted by him. [ January 31, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!