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doug*platypus · 01-25-2003, 10:24 PM

Iargwath, that heraldry page is FANTASTIC! Thanks very much.

The Seven Stars of Elendil were almost certainly inspired by the Valacirca, the constellation with seven major stars that was set in the north by Varda at the coming of the Elves. I believe it is described explicitly like this in The Silmarillion, probably in Of the Coming of the Elves. Elendil was the leader of the Faithful, and it makes perfect sense that his emblem should pay homage to both the Eldar and the Valar.

I don't see anything supporting the fact that the seven stars were the same as the seven stones - why make separate mention like that?

Perhaps on another level, aside from bringing the emblem of seven stars, Elendil and co also brought back to Middle-Earth what it stood for - reverence for the Elder Kindred and for the gods of Arda. Similarly, the one white tree might be symbolic of their devotion to Eru. Or it might not!

01-25-2003, 10:24 PM	#6
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 963	Iargwath, that heraldry page is FANTASTIC! Thanks very much. The Seven Stars of Elendil were almost certainly inspired by the Valacirca, the constellation with seven major stars that was set in the north by Varda at the coming of the Elves. I believe it is described explicitly like this in The Silmarillion, probably in Of the Coming of the Elves. Elendil was the leader of the Faithful, and it makes perfect sense that his emblem should pay homage to both the Eldar and the Valar. I don't see anything supporting the fact that the seven stars were the same as the seven stones - why make separate mention like that? Perhaps on another level, aside from bringing the emblem of seven stars, Elendil and co also brought back to Middle-Earth what it stood for - reverence for the Elder Kindred and for the gods of Arda. Similarly, the one white tree might be symbolic of their devotion to Eru. Or it might not! __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.