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***Mithadan*** · 08-24-2001, 12:46 PM

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Re: Bye Bye Balrogs

No one said this would be easy (or even necessarily possible). Many would agree that the Lost Tales material is too obscure or dated to provide any basis for establishing canon. M. Martinez is one holding this position (he suggests that Lost Tales and even some later material cannot be considered part of the same mythos due to changes in JRRT's intentions such as the departure from the "mythology for England" position). My feeling is that in the absence of any statement of contrary intention or revision by JRRT, some parts of Lost Tales can be deemed to have "survived". Parts of FoG may fall in this category. But I too hesitate concerning mechanical dragons, 1000s of Balrogs and other such details.

--Mithadan--
"The Silmarils with living light
were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

08-24-2001, 12:46 PM	#36
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,313	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Spirit of Mist Posts: 954</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Bye Bye Balrogs No one said this would be easy (or even necessarily possible). Many would agree that the Lost Tales material is too obscure or dated to provide any basis for establishing canon. M. Martinez is one holding this position (he suggests that Lost Tales and even some later material cannot be considered part of the same mythos due to changes in JRRT's intentions such as the departure from the "mythology for England" position). My feeling is that in the absence of any statement of contrary intention or revision by JRRT, some parts of Lost Tales can be deemed to have "survived". Parts of FoG may fall in this category. But I too hesitate concerning mechanical dragons, 1000s of Balrogs and other such details. --Mithadan-- "The Silmarils with living light were kindled clear, and waxing bright shone like stars that in the North above the reek of earth leap forth." </p> __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.