§15 Aiwendil, could you tell us where you find a contradiction when the phrase "Yet" is used here? I find the suggested "At first" rather contraditing the following "now ... he said: '... Get thee gone, O {Úrin}[Húrin], ... , and take thy riches with thee’"
We use the half sentence in the same sense as it was in the original: In that moment in the story Thingol was not willing to take the hoard. And in our versions he said so imidiatley afterwards. Later when he bargained with the Outlaws he had changed his mind.
The same goes for
Q30. There are no Outlaws, but only a § later then "Yet Thingol would not take the hoard" it tells "Then the enchantment of the accursed dragon gold began to fall even upon the king of Doriath, and long he sat and gazed upon it, and the seed of the love of gold that was in his heart was waked to growth." I would not call that a contradiction but a change of mind in the case of Thingol.
All other textual discussions we have reached an agreement as it seems. It remains then the Dragon Helm. Do we agree that, if we in the end take up the note that the Helm was given to Húrin,we would add it into our text at an earlier place? Or are we going to tell it in an retrospective way as Maédhros tried?
Anyway let's try to find the right place now. first we should analyse the note:
Quote:
Hurin goes to seek Gondolin. Fails. Passes by Brethil, and his anguish is increased. They will not admit him - saying that the Halethrim do not wish any more to become enmeshed in the shadow of his kin. But Λ [?new] Lord (7) gives the dragon- helm to Hurin. His heart is hot against Thingol. He passes it [Doriath] by and goes on to Nargothrond. Why? To seek news, plunder, - he had been an admirer of Felagund.
Footnote:
7. The space marked by a caret evidently awaited the name of the new Lord of Brethil.
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The new Lord was not really friendly with Húrin. The "But" indicates that against all his other dealings with Húrin he gave him the Helm. That behavior we could even think of for Harathor (later Hardang) had his dealings with Húrin not gone completly wrong. Now after the note was written the story was developed to what we have in
WH. If we now try to interpret the note in view of
WH the "new Lord" could refer to Hardang, or Daruin(<Avranc) (Manthor never became Halad). For Hardang it is impossible to give the Helm to Húrin as the story went. But if we take the note refering to Daruin, we could think that he would have given the Helm with the party that left Brethil. Thus we would intorduce the note earlier in our text:
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<WH §266 But Húrin stood silent, and when the company departed, bearing away the body of Manthor, he did not turn. He looked ever west till the sun fell into dark cloud and the light failed; and then he went down alone towards the Hauð-en-Elleth.>
§1a (§267) RD-EX-01 <WH Now it is said that those who {…}/sided/ with Hardang were not all caught, and others came in hearing the news, and there was fighting in the Obel, and a great burning, until all was well nigh destroyed. But when the {madness [written above: }wrath{]} of men had cooled they made peace, and some said: 'What hath bewitched us? Surely Húrin begot all this evil, and Hardang and {Avranc}[Daruin] were more wise. They would have kept him out if they could.' So they chose {Avranc}[Daruin] to be their chief, since none of the House of Haleth were left, but {[?? }he wielded no{]} such authority and reverence as the Chieftains before, and the Folk of Brethil fell back again to be more like their kinsmen in the {[?}open{]} woods - each minding his own houselands and little {...}[clearings] and their {...}[confederation] was loosened.>
§1b (§268) {Húrin gathered therefore a few outlaws of the woods unto him, and they came to Nargothrond, which as yet none, Orc, Elf, or Man, had dared to plunder, for dread of the spirit of {Glomund}[Glaurung] and his very memory.} RD-SL-01 <Conclusion of the second draft Manuscript WH; Note 54 But some misliked this and would not serve under {Avranc}[Daruin] and made ready to depart, <WH N54 Isolated page end and others there were who {despair}despaired now of defending Brethil from the growing strength of Morgoth and {wish}wished to fly south> and they joined Húrin.> RD-EX-01.5 <editorial bridge And they brought Húrin a message, that ><WH, Note at the end of GA /the people in Brethil/{They} will not admit him /ever again/ - saying that the Halethrim do not wish any more to become enmeshed in the shadow of his kin. But { Λ }/from /[Daruin] the {[?}new{] Lord}[Chieftain] {gives}/they brought/ the dragon-helm/ of Dor-lómin/ to Húrin.>RD-EX-02 <WH, Note 54, Text 2 At the Taeglin crossing they {fall}fell in with Asgon, who {has}had heard rumour of the wild deeds in Brethil, and of Húrin's coming, and {are}was now venturing back into the land to seek him. Asgon {greets}greeted him - and {is}[was] glad that {Harathor}[Hardang] {has}had been punished. And he was angered {Angered} that no one had told Húrin of their coming.
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Maybe not really a smooth editing and a bit of forced interpretation of the note, but it could be the best place to add the Helm, even beter maybe than the Moot of Brethil where it would cerate a break in the action or change the picture drastical.
Respectfully
Findegil