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Originally Posted by alatar
What I find interesting here is that when there are 'two' people present (Frodo/Sam and Isildur/Elrond) the journey fails - both times, the Ring survives. But when the third person arrives - Gollum - the Ring is destroyed. Is there a sort of Holy Trinity here - that it takes three to do something so spiritually powerful?
Very interesting observation! I personally do not see the Christian Trinity, but see that Chaos, in the form of Gollum, has entered the event and will tip the scales either to the good side or the bad. If Gollum falls, like he does, good wins. If he claims the Ring, it won't be long until Sauron retakes it - bad wins. Eru rolling dice, perhaps?
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You could read a little about Gurdjieff esoteric Christianity...
The third person is a force that is invisible and sometimes manifest itself .
Gollum is here because Mercy has win Justice both with Bilbo both with Frodo.
May be Isildur fail because he believed Sauron fail because of his family not seeing that was the Alliance that win him... So he believed right, an act of justice, to keep the ring as a "record" . Eru is not rolling dice, but as the Oracle in Matrix , he put his faith in Neo (Frodo/sam) but he cannot alter the number of results of dices ,it goes further ihs possibility ! Iluvatar could create Elves and men ,then he could just try to awaken them ,not rule them.
He could give some light to show the ground,but is up to them to find the path...