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Old 04-05-2011, 12:19 PM   #39
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Gondowe proposed the follwing change in the thread about general changes:
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include only in the Valaquenta an allusion of Mairon as the original name of Sauron per Words, Phrases and passages PE17, pg183:
for example:
Among those of his servants that have names the greatest was [Mairon,] that spirit whom the Eldar [later] called Sauron, or Gorthaur the Cruel. In his beginning...
The passage in Parma Eldalamberon 17: Words, Phrases and Passages in The Lord of the Rings on page 184 reads:
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SAWA-, disgusting, foul, vile: [Q saura, foul, vile whence name Sauron.]* prefix Q sau- as in: saucare, doing or making a thing very badly. Not used in Sindarin as prefix; but the adjective saur occurs in sense 'bad' of food etc., putrid, also substantive saw, flith, putrescence.

also Q söa, flith (sawā). [Added in the left margin.]

* This name is also used in late 3[rd] age Sindarin and could be a genuine Sindarin formation from saur; but is probably from Quenya. The ancient Sindarin name for Sauron was Gorthaur, of quite distinct origin: from √ÑGOR 'terror' and √THUS, evil mist, fog, Darkness: ñgor(o)-thūsō > Gorthu 'Mist of Fear'; cf. thû, horrible darkness, black mist < thūsē.
Sauron's original name was Mairon, but this was altered after he was suborned by Melkor. But he continued to call himself Mairon the Admirable, or Tar-mairon 'King Excellent' until after the downfall of Númenor. The Quenya form equivalent to Gorthu was ñorthus, ñorsus, stem ñorsūr-
I would add a bit more then Gondowe suggested:
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Among those of his servants that have names the greatest was that spirit whom the Eldar called Sauron, or Gorthaur the Cruel. Vala-07.5 <Words. Phrases and Passages Sauron's original name was Mairon, but this was altered after he was suborned by Melkor. But he continued to call himself Mairon the Admirable, or Tar-mairon 'King Excellent' until after the downfall of Númenor.> In his beginning he was of the Maiar of Aulë, and he remained mighty in the lore of that people. In all the deeds of Melkor the Morgoth upon Arda, in his vast works and in the deceits of his cunning, Sauron had a part, and was only less evil than his master in that for long he served another and not himself. But in after years he rose like a shadow of Morgoth and a ghost of his malice, and walked behind him on the same ruinous path down into the Void.
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