Surinen's save is now filled in, with apologies for a rambling post. And sorry too for the awkward ending
Nerindel!
This is what comes of trying to think like a dog....
A word of warning about the custard I mentioned, if it is anything like the one I had made of water buffalo milk, if will taste wonderful - if you can get it past your nose. Smelled exactly like an over ripe barnyard! But it was an honor, and I had to eat it.