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Old 01-30-2006, 08:19 AM   #8
Maédhros
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I agree completely. Perhaps we should send (or offer to send) our Turin and Ruin of Doriath texts out to a few of those who were at one time heavily involved with the project - Lindil, Maedhros, perhaps Mister Underhill and Mithadan.
Although sadly I have been unable to participate as I used to in the Project, I have been keeping an eye on the discussion.
I would not have been any help with the verse part in general.

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I have given the matter of the Dragon-helm some more thought. It still seems to me that the note in which the Helm is given to Hurin was superceded by WH. The crucial point, it seems to me, is that in the original note the new lord of Brethil gave the Helm to Hurin. I don't think there can be any doubt that at this stage, that lord was imagined to be sympathetic to Hurin and that the Helm was given in friendship; if some other story lay behind the gesture, I'm sure this would have been mentioned. The introduction of Hardang makes the note obselete, in my opinion.

I certainly acknowledge that it's possible that Tolkien would have re-introduced the Helm had he continued WH. But this is just one of many cases where there is something Tolkien might have done. Moreover, it seems to me very likely that, had he still envisioned the Helm coming to Hurin, he would have mentioned it in one of the outlines for the continuation of WH.
As I recalled, that was your point way before in the discussion. To me personally, I would have liked to keep the Dragon-helm so that when Húrin reached Menegroth, in his speech with Thingol he would have given that to him.
But I guess that you are right and alas, Húrin should not get it.
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