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Old 04-23-2016, 09:30 AM   #18
Zigūr
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(the earth being beneath the haughty Elves and a place fit for only dwarves )
Haven't we sufficiently established that the Elves didn't consider the earth to figuratively be beneath them? On a more serious note, surely the Classical Elements of the Greek philosophers would have been disdained by Professor Tolkien, who preferred his ancient sources Germanic. The air/water/fire thing is difficult to ignore, however. I wonder how important he thought it was.
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Proof of this is that Sauron never gained dominion over them (while he wielded the One)
I always thought that the reason for that was simply because the bearers of the Three literally took them off their hands when they heard Sauron incanting the Ring-inscription as he placed the One upon his finger.
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The plot itself was quite intricate, but for the greater part of its intent, it was a failure. Only Man succumbed to the lure of the Rings. It failed against the Elves utterly, and the success against the dwarves was so limited that Sauron ended up taking back the ones not eaten up by dragons.
Which was characteristic of Sauron the whole way through: "he that strikes the first blow, if he strikes it hard enough, may need to strike no more. [...] Wise fool."
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