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Old 10-22-2005, 06:03 PM   #93
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Originally Posted by Aiwendil
Kuruharan wrote:
Woh, woh, wait a minute here. We know of one time when Eru used violence. You (and others) have a theory that Eru is to be viewed as responsible for Gollum's fall. Let's not confuse facts with matters that are subject to (legitimate) controversy. I, for one, don't think that Eru was particularly more involved in the incident at Mt. Doom than he was in any event anywhere and any time in Arda.
I think the events at the Sammath Naur can be seen on two levels. On the first we see a nasty, squalid, brutal little struggle driven by violence, greed & desire. Two Hobbits fight over a possession, one wins by maiming the other, dances in exultation & trips & falls ito a volcano.

On the second we have a cosmic drama on which depends the fate of the world, both physical & spiritual. Good & Evil confront each other, Evil seems to win, but at the last moment defeats itself & Good is triumphant.

But the point is this is a single event which can be seen from both perspectives. Eru plays a part, He is not a passive figure. 'Eru' is that which sustains existence, which ensures there is something rather than nothing. It is that which wins out at the Cracks of Doom - art, creativity, beauty, knowledge, life. It is also that which overwhelms the 'Evil ' symbolised by Gollum holding aloft the Ring & exulting - the dehumanised 'animal' with the power of death in its claws, the 'Machine' about to crush all life.

'Eru' obliterates the life of Gollum. Art, creativity, beauty, knowledge, life destroys Smeagol.
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