Well well, my sneak attack didn't go off as planned due to participation, but ah well... that's what happens. Not many people feel as duty-bound obligated to post as I do (I will literally call in sick to work if I think it's the difference between winning and losing a game).
The plan was not to show much in the way of hard and just suspicion but rather load Sam up with ammo and have Shelob + Spiderlings think "Where the heck did this come from? I didn't imagine this!" when suddenly the innocent were coming after them on the final day.
I saw the whole
Lottie thing as being extremely telling. From my PM to
Wilwa-Sam during my final night alive-
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I'm so ticked that they lynched Lottie!! She was SO unlikely, for a host of reasons!! Seems like an unlikely Shelob, definitely wasn't the first spider bite (she would've acted different), and she couldn't have been stung Night 2 (that was Sam), could not have been stung Night 4 (that was Frodo), so that only leaves Night 3, in which case she would've acted different to tip us off, not to mention everyone seemed pretty aware that my declaring the two of you innocent was baiting a Shelob failed attack on the assumption that she might be protected.
I mean really- she was as bad a lynch choice as anyone in the game, so merely on those grounds I'm suspicious of anyone involved. And especially I'm suspicious of people like Nog who voted for her on the grounds that he was checking my trustworthiness (her badness would make me look bad or whatever). That's such a ridiculous premise, because-
1) Why not just lynch ME if you are suspecting me? (answer: Because Shelob already knows I'm going to die so might as well kill Lottie too.)
2) So what if she was evil? Would I have picked her? Would I have treated her like that as my minion? Who flippin knows?! In other words, there was no information that could've been gained! NO ONE can predict with any success how I'd act in a given situation, so why pretend that there is some believable test you can do to determine my guilt?!
Anyone who even attempts such a thing is scheming, because in and of itself it's pointless to approach me in such a fashion, and anyone who's played with me ought to know better.
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The Lottie lynch was poorly conceived, and if it was innocents doing it they ought to be ashamed of themselves. If I was still alive I'd harp on that all day and lynch those people.
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As far as my thoughts on individuals, here's my
Shasta take from my PM-
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Shasta- he's got very little in the way of voting record and such, so really who's to say. I'm the sort that would declare him a non-target on account of him being such a submarine the first few days, and declare that if he's Shelob then screw him, he didn't legitimately fool me, he just skated past due to inactivity.
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Also, encourage everyone to reread Day 3 and see if anyone is hinting that they have been stung. Tell them that if no one did anything to hint that they were stung, then the sting victim MUST have been someone that was pretty much absent most of the time.
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I did not want to go so far as to outright say that
Shasta was the Night 3 sting, but given what I could remember for the day and the people that I actually read for sting-clues,
Shasta seemed a good choice, and I wondered if a thorough read-through by the innocents in mass would indeed place him as a likely Spidlering not to be trusted.
The bit pertaining to
Nerwen-
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Nerwen- She's also been as wrong as anyone in the game, and she misses obvious things that I would think she'd catch (like her comments about me, trying to make my posts sound suspicious when they're instead giving out the Frodo-vibes).
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The bit pertaining to
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I mean really- she was as bad a lynch choice as anyone in the game, so merely on those grounds I'm suspicious of anyone involved. And especially I'm suspicious of people like Nog who voted for her on the grounds that he was checking my trustworthiness
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I'm not certain Shelob would openly try and kill you, as that could be incriminating. Why not give the attack orders to a Spiderling? Or why not be on your side the entire game? As a Baddie I have on multiple occasions won the game with multiple gifteds still alive on the final day, because I got them on my side. Killing isn't always necessary.
And if you'll remember back on Day 2, I said that a strategy that was just as likely was that Shelob and minions would first wish to rid themselves of Sam's supporters giving them an easier shot should they wish to take out Sam. And notice they did bust up the Phantom-Wilwa-Lottie block that I had going. If they hadn't done that I think they would've found themselves in trouble, but instead you're the only one left.
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Nog- Same thing, only more so (in reference to Nerwen looking guilty). Personally it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he didn't, based upon your identity, take a look at me and figure I was Frodo and then select me for tactical reasons (the Night-death is useful). And then of course kill the other very innocent person I'd been supporting (Lottie) and come away from the ordeal with an avenue to attack you.
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The way in which he's wrong and the perfect timing of his wrongness... If he's not evil then he's playing very very off his game and deserves death anyway.
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Anyway, after our night talks I figured
Wilwa would enter the arena guns blasting and get all the innocents to gang up on a baddie, most likely
Nog. She did in fact get
Inzil to go with her, and
Lhuna went for a baddie independently (thus I imagine
Wilwa could've gained
Lhuna's help had she began her posting before the final 5 hours or if
Lhuna had held her vote until closer to the deadline), and
Fea I was confident would help, and well- that would've been the game.
But as the hours ticked by on that day and nothing was in the works, I knew the game was lost. Ugh. Completely my fault. Instead of trying to be surprising just for the sake of drama and making a good story, I should've stuck around until the deadline on that final day I was alive and let loose with everything I had rather than dump the workload in the lap of a busy person.
Heh heh... just goes to show what I've said before- it's a fine line between a slaughter either direction. Something as small as an appointment can swing a game. What's embarrassing this time is given the set up I can't believe the goodies didn't win. If I had been
Nog I would have cried upon receiving the Shelob role. "Um, moddess, how exactly am I supposed to win with no team?"
Under those circumstances I would've been tempted to do something extremely high-risk for the low chance of payoff, but
Nog's more calculated risks ended up being suited for the flow of this particular game.