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Old 03-09-2006, 11:08 AM   #150
Tuor of Gondolin
Ghost Prince of Cardolan
 
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Tuor of Gondolin has just left Hobbiton.
A good point about the Witch-king of Angmar,
but I'm thinking of an orc. (Hint: when last
seen he wasn't very happy with his fellow orcs).

Here's the indication of two surviving orcs (from
Wikipedia)

Quote:
Shagrat was the Uruk in command of the tower of Cirith Ungol, which guarded a pass into Mordor. After the discovery of the unconscious Frodo, he had Frodo put into the highest room of the tower. In a dispute over Frodo's mithril-shirt, most of Shagrat's and Gorbag's Orcs were killed. Shagrat was one of only two Orc survivors. He took the mithril-shirt, as well as Frodo's Elven cloak and Sam's sword, to the Barad-dûr. These were used by the Mouth of Sauron as evidence of
P.S. I think I know the second orc, although if it's the one I'm
thinking of it's a bit of a trick question.

P.P.S. I don't think this reference to two survivors would refer to
Gorbag and Shagrat, since when they were alive Snaga, the
two orcs sent by Shagrat to Sauron, and the orcs firing arrows
at them were also still alive and it's hard to imagine a scenario
where just two of the above could be considered definitively
alive at the same time after fighting for the mthril-shirt.
(Sorry for any confusion here).

P.P.P.S. If there is dispute over the existence/name of this
other orc then Glirdan could be considered the (answrerer ?)
of the question.
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