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**lindil** · 04-05-2001, 07:19 AM

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Re: Re: The Parentage of Orodreth and Gil-galad: A Hi

Tar - Elenion posted:"Later JRRT noted that Finrod had no child
and had left his wife in Aman."

Lindil replies:'Wife' is stated? I may be thinking of another reference but I recall a ______ of the vanyar 'whom he loved'. I got the impression it was an 'Amroth /Nimrodel' pre-marriage relationship. But as i stated, I may have the wrong references in mind or there could be more than one.

Aiwendil posted:"A canon Silm. will have to explain why neither Celebrimbor nor
Galadriel got a chance. "

Lindil replies: Without any desire to sound snippety Aiwendil, I don't think a new canon has to explain things which were left vague [ or in confusion] in the texts anymore than JRRT does [although granted he later would ponder and explain and such in various letters and essays] There will always be ambiguities in M-E as there are in the RW. There of course will need to be a commentary detailing the changes and decisions [of which I hope Tar-Elenion we would have liberty to qoute from or include your ever growing number of essays <img src=smile.gif ALT="

"> ] but this would not need to be [nor shoud it be I think] in the text of the Silmarillion itself but could be made widely available at say www.New Silmrillion.com <img src=smile.gif ALT="

"> .

Overall I think you have done an excellent job Tar-Elenion at what most might regard as tedious and near thankless work.

Of course we have to keep in mind that we could see further etymological tid-bit's come to light which upset the already shaky apple-cart. But I hope that CRT has scoured the errata, notes, 'hasty scribblings' and such so that any further revalations coming from the Vinyar Tengwar folks will not directly effect the geneologies.

Lindil is oft found on posting on the Silmarillion Project at the Barrowdowns and working on a new Elven/Christian discussion board<a href="http://beta.ezboard.com/bosanwekenta" >Osanwe-Kenta</a> 'The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night, and awaken early before dawn- exchanging lore and wisdom such as they possessed , so that they should not fall back into the mean and low estate of those , who never knew or more sadly still, had indeed rebelled against the Light.' </p>

04-05-2001, 07:19 AM	#6
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,681	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Seeker of the Straight Path Posts: 575</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Re: The Parentage of Orodreth and Gil-galad: A Hi Tar - Elenion posted:"Later JRRT noted that Finrod had no child and had left his wife in Aman." Lindil replies:'Wife' is stated? I may be thinking of another reference but I recall a ______ of the vanyar 'whom he loved'. I got the impression it was an 'Amroth /Nimrodel' pre-marriage relationship. But as i stated, I may have the wrong references in mind or there could be more than one. Aiwendil posted:"A canon Silm. will have to explain why neither Celebrimbor nor Galadriel got a chance. " Lindil replies: Without any desire to sound snippety Aiwendil, I don't think a new canon has to explain things which were left vague [ or in confusion] in the texts anymore than JRRT does [although granted he later would ponder and explain and such in various letters and essays] There will always be ambiguities in M-E as there are in the RW. There of course will need to be a commentary detailing the changes and decisions [of which I hope Tar-Elenion we would have liberty to qoute from or include your ever growing number of essays <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> ] but this would not need to be [nor shoud it be I think] in the text of the Silmarillion itself but could be made widely available at say www.New Silmrillion.com <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> . Overall I think you have done an excellent job Tar-Elenion at what most might regard as tedious and near thankless work. Of course we have to keep in mind that we could see further etymological tid-bit's come to light which upset the already shaky apple-cart. But I hope that CRT has scoured the errata, notes, 'hasty scribblings' and such so that any further revalations coming from the Vinyar Tengwar folks will not directly effect the geneologies. Lindil is oft found on posting on the Silmarillion Project at the Barrowdowns and working on a new Elven/Christian discussion board<a href="http://beta.ezboard.com/bosanwekenta" >Osanwe-Kenta</a> 'The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night, and awaken early before dawn- exchanging lore and wisdom such as they possessed , so that they should not fall back into the mean and low estate of those , who never knew or more sadly still, had indeed rebelled against the Light.' </p> __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.