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Originally Posted by Huinesoron
In the same chapter (III), both Gildor and Gandalf tell Bingo that the Rings were made by Sauron, and 'he dealt them out lavishly, so that they might be spread abroad to ensnare folk'.
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In
ROTK though, Gandalf tells Frodo at Bag End only that Sauron
gave the Nine to Men, and Gildor does not mention the Rings at all.
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Originally Posted by Huinesoron
The Nazgul are deliberatelt faceless, mass-produced spies in the same way that Orcs are mass-produced soldiers.
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Again though, isn't the later idea that it was the Noldor of Eregion, not Sauron, who actually fashioned the Rings of Power (excluding the One, of course)?
In the
Unfinished Tales text
The History of Galadriel and Celeborn it's clear Sauron took the Nine and the Seven from Celebrimbor. How then could the Nazgûl have been
planned by Sauron if he did not himself make their rings? Granted, the Nine and the Seven were a product of his instruction, but I don't think that points toward the end result of mortal possessors of the Nine becoming undead wraiths to be something Sauron intended.
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Originally Posted by Huinesoron
I don't feel that it's at all impossible that Tolkien would agree that one of the Nine could be just such a woman.
Y'know, like a certain power-hungry Ruling Queen of Numenor...
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Well, you'd think the Númenóreans would have noticed if one of their rulers failed to die though. Unless the government just covered it up and called it 'fake news'.