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06-18-2001, 04:45 AM

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Re: A project ~~~~Revising the Fall of Gondolin

Re: keeping the form Legolas ~ remember that this form shows Silvan dialect.

Lindil, yes an "updated" situation can (may) be considered:

Quenya laiqua (LAYAK) Sindarin cognate *laeb (Noldorin lhoeb in Etym.)
Quenya laica (LAY) Sindarin cognate laeg (Cf. Q&E WotJ laegel, Laegrim)

The term Laiquendi "Greenelves" was likely originally conceived of as resulting from laiqua+quendi. But laica can also "fit" here, so to speak ~ according to Helge F., the first element may be a reduced form of _laica_ , or prefixed _lai_ may represent only the base itself (LAY), or maybe even laica+quendi > Laiquendi considering rocco+quén > roquen "knight".

Thanks to you and Tar-E for the welcome Btw. Unfortunately I haven't even had time to properly read all the messages re: the project, let alone contribute much or vote; but I thought I'd pop in, being lured from an occasional look into "Langs" as I was <img src=smile.gif ALT="

"> Looks like a lot of great work going on in any event ~ I'd suggest bringing any forms in question to the Master linguists of Elfling, if possible. Cheers~

Almarë elyen

P.S. re: Echoriad
From David Salo (1995, from a proposed etymology of Eriador) *iâd might have a similar meaning to iâth ~ Echoriad is indeed "later". Quote:

"Evidently its meaning, in whatever way it differs from iâth, was thought to be more appropriate. It is notable that in both Echoriad and Eriador that the 'iâd' is a line of mountains; while the iâth of Doriath was a magical zone of deception and bewilderment."

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06-18-2001, 04:45 AM	#33
cian Guest Posts: n/a	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Pile o' Bones Posts: 16</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: A project ~~~~Revising the Fall of Gondolin Re: keeping the form Legolas ~ remember that this form shows Silvan dialect. Lindil, yes an "updated" situation can (may) be considered: Quenya laiqua (LAYAK) Sindarin cognate laeb (Noldorin lhoeb in Etym.) Quenya laica* (LAY) Sindarin cognate laeg (Cf. Q&E WotJ laegel, Laegrim) The term Laiquendi "Greenelves" was likely originally conceived of as resulting from laiqua+quendi. But laica can also "fit" here, so to speak ~ according to Helge F., the first element may be a reduced form of _laica_ , or prefixed _lai_ may represent only the base itself (LAY), or maybe even laica+quendi > Laiquendi considering rocco+quén > roquen "knight". Thanks to you and Tar-E for the welcome Btw. Unfortunately I haven't even had time to properly read all the messages re: the project, let alone contribute much or vote; but I thought I'd pop in, being lured from an occasional look into "Langs" as I was <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> Looks like a lot of great work going on in any event ~ I'd suggest bringing any forms in question to the Master linguists of Elfling, if possible. Cheers~ Almarë elyen P.S. re: Echoriad From David Salo (1995, from a proposed etymology of Eriador) iâd might have a similar meaning to iâth ~ Echoriad* is indeed "later". Quote: "Evidently its meaning, in whatever way it differs from iâth, was thought to be more appropriate. It is notable that in both Echoriad and Eriador that the 'iâd' is a line of mountains; while the iâth of Doriath was a magical zone of deception and bewilderment." </p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000317>cian</A> at: 6/29/01 6:05:59 am