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Old 02-13-2022, 11:07 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by mhagain View Post
The "Hobbits where none should be" thing needs to be addressed.

There is absolutely nothing in Tolkien stating there were no Hobbits in the Second Age.

Quite the opposite, the Of Dwarves and Men essay even explicitly references primitive Hobbit tribes in "unrecorded ages".

I'd expected better from posters on this forum. Sigh.
There were no Hobbit ancestors on the west side of the Misty Mountains during the 2nd Age. Did they exist? Certainly. But far east of anything that occurs in the Second Age in The Silmarillion.

According to the Tale of Years:

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TA 1050: The Periannath are first mentioned in records with the coming of the Harfoots to Eriador.
1050 of the Third Age. That's almost 3300 years after Sauron seduces the Elves into making the Rings. There's a reason that Tolkien in his letters states anyone looking for Hobbits in the material that makes up The Silmarillion would be disappointed. The Hobbits weren't even mentioned until they entered Eriador over three millenia after the ancient era when the story takes place.

They didn't even reach Bree until TA 1300. The second entry in the Tale of Years:

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The Periannath migrate westward; many settle at Bree.
I would suggest you read the books before making statements about canon. It might help you in discussions here.
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