[narfforc]

This thread has started to really intrigue me. The Lord of the Rings films have been and gone, and I think due to their length it was not easy to fit in much more than the basic storyline, however with The Hobbit being much smaller, the scope for expanding it is far better. Within the pages of The Hobbit, and therefore covered by film rights, are touches of Tolkiens Silmarillion. Apart from Gondolin, Durin and Moria and Elronds ancestry we have paragraphs like the following:


The feasting people were Wood-elves, of course. These are not wicked folk. If they have a fault it is distrust of strangers. Though their magic was strong, even in those days they were wary. They differed from the High Elves of the West, and were more dangerous and less wise. For most of them (together with their scattered relations in the hills and mountains) were descended from the ancient tribes that never went to Faerie in the West. There the Light-elves and the Deep-elves and the Sea-elves went and lived for ages, and grew fairer and wiser and more learned, and invented their magic and their cunning in the making of beautiful and marvellous things before some came back into the wide world.


Here are another few paragraphs that echo Tolkiens older work:


In ancient days they had had wars with some of the dwarves, whom they accused of stealing their treasure. It is only fair to say that the dwarves gave a different account, and said that they only took what was their due, for the elf-king had bargained with them to shape his raw gold and silver, and afterwards had refused to give them their pay. If the elf-king had a weakness it was for treasure, especially for silver and white gems; and though his hoard was rich, he was ever eager for more, since he had not yet as great a treasure as other elf-lords of old.

This last paragraph is so similar to the story of Thingol, yet is supposed to be about Thranduil. Was this some kind of family story somehow garbled by time and telling. Celeborn grandson of Elwe's brother Elmo calls Legolas kinsman, was Oropher father of Thranduil related to the royal household of Menegroth, could he have been another son of Galadhon, or maybe son of Galathil brother of Celeborn and father of Nimloth.

Of course much of this is in Unfinished Tales, however it is not the genealogy that I wished to dwell on but the storyline. These words from the two paragraphs occur in The Hobbit so surely they can be used in any film, therefore adding to the story without having to invent fictitious storylines of their own.