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Man-of-the-Wold · 12-19-2002, 01:25 PM

Mistake? Paradise Lost?

I agree with the notion of the Valar making mistakes (eg, letting Melkor go) Like God, they may be all-good, but are they really all powerful. They could not cleanse Middle-Earth of all of Morgoth's hurt, and they wanted the Elves to live in the Light, and did not force them, too. There selfish desire for companions and pupils was I believe secondary. So, the intent was good.

But Ulmo warned against it, and he was right. Although in the end most Elves must go to the Aman and away from "Mortal" Lands, it is wrong to bring people too close in contact with power far greater themselves. The same applies to Men in terms of association with the High Elves, and of living in Numenor in proximity to the Aman.

But such unwisdom by the Valar is a believe destiny within the Music of Ainur.

12-19-2002, 01:25 PM	#22
Man-of-the-Wold Wight Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: With Tux, dread poodle of Pinnath Galin Posts: 239	Mistake? Paradise Lost? I agree with the notion of the Valar making mistakes (eg, letting Melkor go) Like God, they may be all-good, but are they really all powerful. They could not cleanse Middle-Earth of all of Morgoth's hurt, and they wanted the Elves to live in the Light, and did not force them, too. There selfish desire for companions and pupils was I believe secondary. So, the intent was good. But Ulmo warned against it, and he was right. Although in the end most Elves must go to the Aman and away from "Mortal" Lands, it is wrong to bring people too close in contact with power far greater themselves. The same applies to Men in terms of association with the High Elves, and of living in Numenor in proximity to the Aman. But such unwisdom by the Valar is a believe destiny within the Music of Ainur. __________________ The hoes unrecked in the fields were flung, __ and fallen ladders in the long grass lay __ of the lush orchards; every tree there turned __ its tangled head and eyed them secretly, __ and the ears listened of the nodding grasses; __ though noontide glowed on land and leaf, __ their limbs were chilled.