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05-01-2004, 05:48 PM | #1 |
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Albino Elves
Here's a question! If Races from all across Middle Earth have different skin tones (Elves, Dwarves, Orcs, Easterlings), is there a possibility that some could be albino? Or is that a topic that Tolkien failed to notice?
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05-01-2004, 06:39 PM | #3 |
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Good point. But still, that would be cool if someone was albino. and it could be relavent to the story. After stealing the ring from Deagol, for some odd reason it could have made him albino, which was another reason to go into the cave.
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05-01-2004, 08:25 PM | #4 |
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Gollum is descirbed as being bone white sometimes...mind you, other times he's black as night. Basically, from a distance the guy's a wretched chameleon.
Albino's lack the menalin to handle the sun well...so though Orks have lots of pigment in them, you could say they suffer the ill-effects of albinosim.
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05-01-2004, 10:01 PM | #5 |
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Albinism is a result of genetic mutation that causes a deficiency in melanin (there are several alterations that can trigger it). Who knows whether that mutation had showed up as early as Tolkien's stories take place? They certainly wouldn't have known what caused it, or even what to call it.
Maybe Dwalin's blue beard was a result of some odd genetic mutation, though.
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08-03-2004, 11:25 AM | #7 |
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Is there such a thing as Albino hair? Because most elves have white-blonde hair which is close enough isnt it? Elven folk are supposed to be fair of skin, so I suppose you could call them albino. It has a nice ring to it....."albino elves" In the films, the fellowship have more or less the same skin-tone but, just to raise a slightly different point; why do dwarves have darker skin than elves?
Elves are almost always outside, so surely they should have a darker flesh than dwarves, who spend their time underground! (because of the whole sun thing!) Elves are pale, I suppose, to symbolise their purity and inner light. So you could call them albino.
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02-04-2005, 02:12 PM | #9 | |
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Also, for what its worth, most of the Teleri (be they from Aman, Beleriand, or elsewhere) are described as having "dark" hair, not unlike the Noldor. Silver-Grey seems to be a rare distinguishing trait of their royal house, where it is possessed by Thingol, Cirdan, Celeborn, and possibly others.
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02-04-2005, 02:26 PM | #10 |
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Being etiolated from light deprivation is not the same as albinism. I have found various sites that point out various flaws in the genetics of Middle Earth. Although Mendel started his experiments in the 1850s it is fair to say that it was still a very new branch of science when Tolkien was writing and I wouldn't think that errors would cause much impairment of the work.
Pale isn't the same as albino ... I was at school with a girl who was affected by it and it was far from cool. Aswell as lacking colour in hair and skin it always affects the eyes - in vision if not coulour - and she had a serious visual impairment. Elves certainly don't suffer from that.
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I know in the games there is albino Wargs......
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12-20-2005, 07:41 PM | #12 |
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im pretty sure there is a difference between whate hair and albino hair. white is pigmented white, obviously, but albino hair would really be defined as clear, making the hair look the color of the skin behind it. i think a polar bear is an example.
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Regarding albino characters, it is unlikely that there would be many. I don't know the statistics on how many albino individuals there are in a population but it's unlikely to be too big... and if you take into account that science was not very well developed in the timeframe Middle Earth is set on, it is likely that albino people would have been discriminated and ostracised by society. Either that or adored as demi-gods because their white skin showed how pure they are or something like that |
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Now, if we're talking about orcs...
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12-21-2005, 02:37 AM | #16 | |
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If you say that was the reason he 'shunned the sun'...
But here is his description from Silmarillion: Quote:
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Correct. Thus polar bears can sometimes appear creamy (from the sun) and green (from algae infections within their hair follicles).
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