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Old 10-10-2004, 10:30 AM   #1
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White-Hand *Fell Beasts*Winged Shadow*What are they?*

Hey everyone! I'm new here, and this is such a great site!!

Okay my first question to everyone here has been on my mind for a week or so:

The Fell Beasts.
What are they? Some sources talk of prehistoric creatures forgotten by many and changed by the Dark Lord.

The great shadow descended like a falling cloud. and behold! it was a winged creature: if bird, then greater than all other birds, and it was naked, and neither quill nor feather did it bear, and its vast pinions were as webs of hide between horned fingers; and it stank. A creature of an older world maybe it was, whose kind, lingering in forgotten mountains cold beneath the Moon, outstayed their day, and in hideous eyrie bred this last untimely brood, apt to evil. And the Dark Lord took it, and nursed it with fell meats, until it grew beyond the measure of all other things that fly; and he gave it to his servant to be his steed. Down, down it came, and then, folding its fingered webs, it gave a croaking cry, and settled upon the body of Snowmane, digging in its claws, stooping its long naked neck. ... ( Love that passage..)


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Okay this is what I've been thinking. You know how the orcs were made from Elves? Well what if the Fell Beasts were made from the great Eagles? It talks of it being 'like a Giant bird' with wings.
So does anyone know the actual origin of them? Anyone thinking along the same lines as me or am I far off the mark?

Thanks,
Dwimmerlaik.

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Old 10-10-2004, 11:01 AM   #2
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Welcome Dwimmerlaik!

That's a good question. Maybe Fell Beasts are a strange hybrid of other creatures. Certainly, there were Dragons, and Sauron knew of bats, and the description of Fell Beasts has elements of both. The wings are like bats' wings, with webbing between 'horned fingers', but the neck is more Dragon-like - there were Dragons without wings, so it is quite possible that Sauron had indulged some of his 'talents' in either creating or breeding these creatures.

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Old 10-10-2004, 01:28 PM   #3
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I have always taken for granted that these creatures were simply mythical inventions of Tolkien, alluding to or based partially on dinosaurs - pterodactyls and their like, in particular.

The passage you quote, Dwimmerlaik, is one of my favorite descriptive passages in The Lord of the Rings. (Welcome to the Downs, by the way. )
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Old 10-11-2004, 12:11 PM   #4
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Cheers for the replies so far and I've just realized something:

A creature of an older world maybe it was, whose kind, lingering in forgotten mountains cold beneath the Moon, outstayed their day, and in hideous eyrie bred this last untimely brood, apt to evil.

In hideous eyrie.. Doesn't that mean a 'hideous eagle nest' ? So maybe they were cross breeds of some ancient creature, like the Bats and the Eagles, and were probably based on pterodactyls as Son of Numenor(Ace avatar btw) said!

Pretty cool eh!!

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Old 10-12-2004, 10:58 AM   #5
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That's an interesting theory, Dwimmerlaik. Personally, I've always pictured the fell beasts as being pterodactyls, or something similar.

This question was actually put to Tolkien in a letter. A woman wrote to him and asked "Did the Witch-king ride a pterodactyl at the siege of Gondor?" The good professor replied:

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Yes and no. I did not intend the steed of the Witch-King to be what is now called a 'pterodactyl', and often is drawn [...]. But obviously it is pterodactylic and owes much to the new mythology [of the Prehistoric], and its description even provides a sort of way in which it could be a last survivor of older geological eras.
(This is from The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien Letter #211)

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