Elrond doesn't allow Merry and Pippin on the Quest - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

deal_with_it · 03-30-2006, 10:40 AM

Despite their protests and threats to follow the Party, Elrond does not give in and decides to send the 2 hobbits, that have braved so much to this point, back to Bree and the Shire to spread the word and prepare for war.

Had this happened, no one would have listened to them or taken them seriously and the Fellowship would be too far away to catch up to at that point. They'd effectively be out of the story until the heroes returned home.

If they follow up on their threats and follow the Fellowship, Aragorn and Gandalf would likely take pity and allow them to come along for their own protection. The story arc would continue on as normal except for:

--the possible story weave of the additional two people Elrond sends in the hobbits place (possibly Glorfindel??, but we'll never know who he had in mind)

--with their absence (the hobbits) we're not sure how the story can play out for the Fellowship. Merry helps Gandalf solve the Moria Door Riddle. Eventually someone would have figured it out, but would this have beenin time when the Watcher attacks and the door to Moria isn't available to escape thru? Also Pippin doesn't drop a pebble into the well and effectively alert all of Moria to their presence - which means no Balrog Battle, no Gandalf getting killed, no Frodo revealing his mithril mail, and no Chamber of Mazurbul and discovering the fate of Balin's expedition.

The hobbits wouldn't get abducted, however there's no guarantee Frodo and Sam aren't taken instead, effectively taking over Merry/Pippins roles in the story.

OR they may flee to Mordor as they did, leaving the Fellowship to fight for their lives against the Uruks. Without Merry/Pippin to rescue, the Fellowship follows the fleeing hobbits into Mordor, having no reason to go to Rohan.

03-30-2006, 10:40 AM	#1
deal_with_it Animated Skeleton Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 42	Elrond doesn't allow Merry and Pippin on the Quest Despite their protests and threats to follow the Party, Elrond does not give in and decides to send the 2 hobbits, that have braved so much to this point, back to Bree and the Shire to spread the word and prepare for war. Had this happened, no one would have listened to them or taken them seriously and the Fellowship would be too far away to catch up to at that point. They'd effectively be out of the story until the heroes returned home. If they follow up on their threats and follow the Fellowship, Aragorn and Gandalf would likely take pity and allow them to come along for their own protection. The story arc would continue on as normal except for: --the possible story weave of the additional two people Elrond sends in the hobbits place (possibly Glorfindel??, but we'll never know who he had in mind) --with their absence (the hobbits) we're not sure how the story can play out for the Fellowship. Merry helps Gandalf solve the Moria Door Riddle. Eventually someone would have figured it out, but would this have beenin time when the Watcher attacks and the door to Moria isn't available to escape thru? Also Pippin doesn't drop a pebble into the well and effectively alert all of Moria to their presence - which means no Balrog Battle, no Gandalf getting killed, no Frodo revealing his mithril mail, and no Chamber of Mazurbul and discovering the fate of Balin's expedition. The hobbits wouldn't get abducted, however there's no guarantee Frodo and Sam aren't taken instead, effectively taking over Merry/Pippins roles in the story. OR they may flee to Mordor as they did, leaving the Fellowship to fight for their lives against the Uruks. Without Merry/Pippin to rescue, the Fellowship follows the fleeing hobbits into Mordor, having no reason to go to Rohan.