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Elanor · 12-28-2001, 04:17 PM

Hi - can somebody either help me out with an answer, or point me in the right direction for where to find out? I am trying to read the Silmarillion, and am puzzled by the map. How does the map of Beleriand fit into/onto the rest of Middle Earth? Am I missing something obvious, are they two totally separate places, or are they joined together somehow? In other words, where is the Silmarillion map in relation to the LoTR maps?
Thanks!

obloquy · 12-28-2001, 04:28 PM

The Silmarillion map (Beleriand) was originally the land to the north and west of the Middle-earth map in the Lord of the Rings. The Blue Mountains (Ered Luin) in the east of the map of Beleriand are the same Blue Mountains that are in the furthermost west of the Middle-earth map. You'll have to finish the Silmarillion if you want to find out what happened to Beleriand. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Elanor · 12-28-2001, 04:45 PM

Thanks obloquy. I always like to get my bearings before I get going on a story [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I take it something happened to Beleriand, as there is only sea to the west of the Blue Mountains in the later ME map... I shall have to read on. It's quite tough going at the moment though, I'm afraid.

obloquy · 12-28-2001, 06:29 PM

Well by all means stick with it!

Snowdog · 12-09-2002, 11:17 AM

Stay with it man! Beleriand would have been west of the blue Mountains on the Lord of the Rings map. The Silmarillion deals with Middle Earth in the Firsat Age, wheras the Lord of the Rings deals with Middle Earth in the latter days of the Third Age.

Neferchoirwen · 12-11-2002, 12:36 AM

I wanted to know that myself. Thanks for bringing it up, Elanor!

...and thanks for answering, Obloquy!

Selmo · 12-11-2002, 04:13 AM

Here's a link to a map of Fist Age Middle Earth including Beleriand:
http://groups.msn.com/TolkiensRing/m...to&PhotoID=274

the witch king · 12-13-2002, 07:01 PM

Stick with it i think sims better than lotr! if you like maps etc get the atlas of tolkiens middle earth by karen wynn fonstad it great.

zacattack · 12-14-2002, 05:17 PM

Yeah continue reading it because in my opinion it is alot better than LotR becuase it is more exciting.

PS:Thanks for the map of Beleriand

12-28-2001, 04:17 PM	#1
Elanor Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: my own corner of the Shire Posts: 316	maps - a question Hi - can somebody either help me out with an answer, or point me in the right direction for where to find out? I am trying to read the Silmarillion, and am puzzled by the map. How does the map of Beleriand fit into/onto the rest of Middle Earth? Am I missing something obvious, are they two totally separate places, or are they joined together somehow? In other words, where is the Silmarillion map in relation to the LoTR maps? Thanks! __________________ "When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Henny Youngman (1906 - )

12-28-2001, 04:45 PM	#3
Elanor Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: my own corner of the Shire Posts: 316	Thanks obloquy. I always like to get my bearings before I get going on a story [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] I take it something happened to Beleriand, as there is only sea to the west of the Blue Mountains in the later ME map... I shall have to read on. It's quite tough going at the moment though, I'm afraid. __________________ "When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Henny Youngman (1906 - )

12-11-2002, 12:36 AM	#6
Neferchoirwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: RtR: 483.3 miles, Fords of Bruinen Posts: 512	I wanted to know that myself. Thanks for bringing it up, Elanor! ...and thanks for answering, Obloquy! __________________ On really romantic nights of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion. ~Speed Levitch http://crevicesofsilence.blogspot.com/

12-13-2002, 07:01 PM	#8
the witch king Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Minas Morgul, Morgul Vale, Mordor Posts: 201	Stick with it i think sims better than lotr! if you like maps etc get the atlas of tolkiens middle earth by karen wynn fonstad it great. __________________ 'Whenever death may surprise us, let it be welcome if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.'~ Che Guevara.

12-14-2002, 05:17 PM	#9
zacattack Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Angband Posts: 70	Yeah continue reading it because in my opinion it is alot better than LotR becuase it is more exciting. PS:Thanks for the map of Beleriand __________________ "The dwarf breathes so loud we could have shot him in the dark "What an excellent spot I choose"-Gimli "Would you like me to describe it to you or just fetch for a box"-Legolas

12-28-2001, 04:28 PM	#2
obloquy Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: WA Posts: 941	The Silmarillion map (Beleriand) was originally the land to the north and west of the Middle-earth map in the Lord of the Rings. The Blue Mountains (Ered Luin) in the east of the map of Beleriand are the same Blue Mountains that are in the furthermost west of the Middle-earth map. You'll have to finish the Silmarillion if you want to find out what happened to Beleriand. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

12-28-2001, 06:29 PM	#4
obloquy Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: WA Posts: 941	Well by all means stick with it!

12-09-2002, 11:17 AM	#5
Snowdog Emperor of the South Pole Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim Posts: 646	Stay with it man! Beleriand would have been west of the blue Mountains on the Lord of the Rings map. The Silmarillion deals with Middle Earth in the Firsat Age, wheras the Lord of the Rings deals with Middle Earth in the latter days of the Third Age.

12-11-2002, 04:13 AM	#7
Selmo Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Shire (Staffordshire), United Kingdom Posts: 273	Here's a link to a map of Fist Age Middle Earth including Beleriand: http://groups.msn.com/TolkiensRing/m...to&PhotoID=274