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Boromir88 · 03-23-2004, 03:41 PM

The best mortal fighters, first age, second age, third age doesn't matter. Just trying to get some opinions. The two I will first talk about is probably Aragorn and Boromir. Boromir single-handedly took down 40 uruks/orcs at amon hen, I'm not speaking about all around skill I mean strictly fighting and save Aragorn Boromir was very good.

But as for the best I will say Hurin, he slayed 70 Trolls by himself, Boromir and Aragorn could of done a few but not 70. I say Hurin first, Aragorn second, Boromir 3rd. Your thoughts?

Nimikôi Angarauko · 03-23-2004, 04:24 PM

The Blacksword himself Turin

Voralphion · 03-24-2004, 05:41 PM

It would have to be Hurin, who personally killed seventy trolls plus an unknown number of orcs. In the Silmarillion, after he throws himself into the sea, it says something like, "and so passed the greatest of warriors of the race of men" (not an exact quote)
After him would have to be Turin and Tuor, with Turin slaying Glaurang, and Tuor doing many things in the fall of Gondolin.
After them would probably be Elendil, Aragorn and Isildur.

Boromir88 · 03-27-2004, 12:01 PM

Yes, it seems I have forgotten about Turin and Tuor, they are definately up at the top.
New list hurin, turin, tuor, aragorn. Don't know about Elendil or Isildur great leaders but as of fighting I don't know enough info on them to judge.

**lindil** · 03-27-2004, 03:06 PM

Turin and Hurin.

Perhaps Isildur, who is to say really!? We know so little of the fighting skills or levels of 'being' of most men.

Did not some proto Rohirrim kill Scatha ? Bard got the major job done in a real pinch too.

But from the writings we have, I would say Turin's supreme fighting skills seem interwoven wth his supreme tragedy. Turin was a sort of Aragorn gone amok.

Trainied in the 'school' of the marches of Doriath in post-Nirnaeth Beleriand, alongside Beleg for years, this is pretty serious stuff.

His taking out of Glaurung was far more brutal an experience than Bard's.

Bêthberry · 03-27-2004, 03:23 PM

Frodo or Sam, perhaps even Eowyn.

Not all fighting is about mere physical fisticuffs.

Boromir88 · 03-28-2004, 08:29 AM

Beth, your comment is rather interesting. Nice job, pointing out some people no one has mentioned. Frodo was no panzy like he was in the movie, and sam was no chump at fighting. But to say they beat out Hurin slaying 70 trolls I will disagree.

However, yes, I believe Eowyn is right up there with the tough guys. She slayed the Witch King saving many lives. She saved more lives in LOTR by killing the Witch King then anyone else, except Gollum.

Numenorean · 03-29-2004, 10:32 AM

Boromir88 -

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Don't know about Elendil or Isildur great leaders but as of fighting I don't know enough info on them to judge.

Elendil was a great leader and fighter. He fought and led at the Battle of Dagorlad - a huge, bloody and hardfought clash in which both sides suffered very heavy losses. Elendil then laid siege to Barad-dûr for seven hard years during which there were many more fatalities, including Anárion his youngest son. Elendil (with Gil-galad) eventually faced, fought and overpowered Sauron himself - in a far longer and nastier fight than the movie prologue version.
For the most fell of all mortal warriors I believe Lindil is spot on with this statement:

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Turin was a sort of Aragorn gone amok ...Trainied in the 'school' of the marches of Doriath in post-Nirnaeth Beleriand, alongside Beleg for years, this is pretty serious stuff

As mortal fighters go, Hurin Thalion was a complete hero and perhaps even mightier than his son, though maybe not quite so fell as the seventy Trolls he slew at the Nirnaeth were under orders to take him alive.
Aside from his Silmaril heroics, Beren Erchamion fought a near one man guerilla war for over 4 years in Dorthonion after the Bragollach. Beren caused so much damage to Morgoths forces that an entire army was sent to take him out - under the command of no-one less than Sauron/Gorthaur himself, and they failed.

03-23-2004, 03:41 PM	#1
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Best MORTAL fighter The best mortal fighters, first age, second age, third age doesn't matter. Just trying to get some opinions. The two I will first talk about is probably Aragorn and Boromir. Boromir single-handedly took down 40 uruks/orcs at amon hen, I'm not speaking about all around skill I mean strictly fighting and save Aragorn Boromir was very good. But as for the best I will say Hurin, he slayed 70 Trolls by himself, Boromir and Aragorn could of done a few but not 70. I say Hurin first, Aragorn second, Boromir 3rd. Your thoughts?

03-24-2004, 05:41 PM	#3
Voralphion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sharkey's End Posts: 267	It would have to be Hurin, who personally killed seventy trolls plus an unknown number of orcs. In the Silmarillion, after he throws himself into the sea, it says something like, "and so passed the greatest of warriors of the race of men" (not an exact quote) After him would have to be Turin and Tuor, with Turin slaying Glaurang, and Tuor doing many things in the fall of Gondolin. After them would probably be Elendil, Aragorn and Isildur. __________________ His sword was long his lance was keen His shining helm afar was seen The countless stars of heavens field Were mirrored in his silver shield

03-27-2004, 12:01 PM	#4
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Good ones Yes, it seems I have forgotten about Turin and Tuor, they are definately up at the top. New list hurin, turin, tuor, aragorn. Don't know about Elendil or Isildur great leaders but as of fighting I don't know enough info on them to judge.

03-27-2004, 03:06 PM	#5
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	Turin and Hurin. Perhaps Isildur, who is to say really!? We know so little of the fighting skills or levels of 'being' of most men. Did not some proto Rohirrim kill Scatha ? Bard got the major job done in a real pinch too. But from the writings we have, I would say Turin's supreme fighting skills seem interwoven wth his supreme tragedy. Turin was a sort of Aragorn gone amok. Trainied in the 'school' of the marches of Doriath in post-Nirnaeth Beleriand, alongside Beleg for years, this is pretty serious stuff. His taking out of Glaurung was far more brutal an experience than Bard's. __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.

03-27-2004, 03:23 PM	#6
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	Frodo or Sam, perhaps even Eowyn. Not all fighting is about mere physical fisticuffs. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

03-23-2004, 04:24 PM	#2
Nimikôi Angarauko Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: my realm is in the Void Posts: 20	The Blacksword himself Turin

03-28-2004, 08:29 AM	#7
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Bethberry Beth, your comment is rather interesting. Nice job, pointing out some people no one has mentioned. Frodo was no panzy like he was in the movie, and sam was no chump at fighting. But to say they beat out Hurin slaying 70 trolls I will disagree. However, yes, I believe Eowyn is right up there with the tough guys. She slayed the Witch King saving many lives. She saved more lives in LOTR by killing the Witch King then anyone else, except Gollum.