What was the best new scene in the three EE's? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Elladan and Elrohir · 01-29-2005, 10:07 PM

All right, so, for those of you who've seen all three Extended Editions, what was the best added scene?

I regret to say I have not seen ROTK EE (perhaps I am not qualified to start this thread), but my favorite new scene so far is probably the scene in TTT where Aragorn tries Eowyn's soup. Totally non-canonical, but hilarious!

Please note that this is not about which EXTENDED scene was the best. Which COMPLETELY NEW scene was the best in the three EE's?

Lolidir · 01-29-2005, 10:43 PM

big question. if you would like to give like 12 hours to go watch all of them over again and then come tell you then hang on .............. ok back ( not really)

i cant remember all of them, but i really enjoy the Mouth of Sauron seen in RTK EE which you havent seen. its geat. i wont go into to much detail bc you havent seen it but its great.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress · 01-29-2005, 10:53 PM

I loved the scene in ROTK where Frodo and Sam stumble across the statue of the Stone King at the crossroads in Ithilien.

That's one of my favorite moments in the book (as I have probably said about fifteen times around here

), and I loved the way it was handled in the film version. I just loved the fact that it was included in the film version at all, because it's such a minor moment as far as the plot is concerned. Even though it doesn't inspire any major plot changes it has always seemed like the last hopeful moment before Frodo and Sam head into the utter despair of Mordor. Even though it's an emotional turning point rather than a "action based" turning point, it's always seemed very significant to me.

Not to mention it makes me cry. *sniff*

Sophia

Gorwingel · 01-30-2005, 01:28 AM

I would have to say that I am split between when the Fellowship leaves Rivendell, because it always makes me emotional, and I love when Frodo asks Gandalf what way is Mordor, and the scene at the end of TTT when Gimli has the sword in the head of the orc. That definitely is my most favorite humorist scene, but then I also love when Gimli gets drunk and talks about "the little hairy women" in ROTK

Michael Wilhelmson · 01-30-2005, 09:24 AM

Sorry, but I have to say that Jackson couldn't have included much of the important stuff.

For this thread, I liked the drinking scene (John-Ryhes Davies did all of that improv!), as well as the assassination of Saruman, as misplaced as it was.

Kath · 01-30-2005, 11:25 AM

The best new scene has to be in RotK when we see Aragorn kill that disfigured orc leader thing. I was so cross when the stone didn't crush him and I moaned about it for aaages and then there it was - him dying! Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES!

Eruanna · 01-30-2005, 11:55 AM

I'd have to re-watch the EEs of the first two films to pick one from each (there's a good excuse)

However, for Return of the King I'd have to give a mention to the scene where Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas stumble out of the Paths of the Dead and Aragorn sees the black ships. I had to explain how they had got onto the ships so many times to people who had not read the books

My favourite additions though, were the scenes in the Houses of Healing (all of them) I really regretted their absence in the theatrical version.

Shelob · 01-30-2005, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by Kath

Quote:

The best new scene has to be in RotK when we see Aragorn kill that disfigured orc leader thing. I was so cross when the stone didn't crush him and I moaned about it for aaages and then there it was - him dying! Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES!

I agree whole-heartedly...that was joyous to watch.

Beyond that though, I also liked in 'Fellowship' the Lembas scene where Legolas tells Merry and Pippin about it...that was pretty funny. And I'm having a complete blank on 'Two Towers' now...maybe I'll go watch it again and let you know.

By the way Lolidir,

Quote:

if you would like to give like 12 hours to go watch all of them

a friend and I did this, it was fun.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 01-30-2005, 01:30 PM

The scene in The Return of the King where Faramir chats to Pippin. That's very nice, and one of the few good scenes with Faramir. Made up for Beregond slightly.

King of the North · 01-31-2005, 12:31 PM

Elladen and Elrohir, I'd have to agree with you. That is probably my favorite NEW scene. It added some needed laughter plus it gave some more info on the Dunedain to some unaware fans. Especially those who never read the book.

Tigerlily Gamgee · 01-31-2005, 07:35 PM

Quote:

My favorite scene from all three, comes in TTT...the scene between Boromir, Faramir, and Denethor in Osgiliath. One mainly because Boromir is my favorite character, and it shows the friendship between the two brothers, despite Denethor's favoritism (and some wonderful lines).

"Remember this day brother, it is a good day."
"...that leaves more time for drinking," (Ok I forget half the quote).
"He loves you father!"

This scene also goes to explain the actions of Faramir, taking the ring to Osgiliath.

I totally agree with this. I think that it is probably one of the most fleshed out extended scenes, and one of the most relevant. This is by far my favorite added scene from all three films.

Lathriel · 01-31-2005, 09:17 PM

This is a tough question for me because I'm one of those people who changes their mind all the time as I think on the subject.
Of course I LOVE all the extra scenes with Faramir. As you guys may have predicted.
However, I also do like the stew scene. My mom was never a fan of that scene because she thought it made the story between Aragorn and Eowyn cheesy. But I always disagreed and it is my friend's most favourite scene.

For FOTR my favourite is split between the view of Caras Gladhon, the lembas comercial (graciuosly given by Legolas) and Galadriel's gifts.

For TTT it would be the Boromir/Faramir scene

For ROTK I'm thinking it would be the scene between Pippin and Faramir or the crossroads.

Most of my favourite scenes are the ones where character development plays a large part. I love the battlle sequences but still I prefer the character development ones. Of course that is to a certain extent.

Still I watched a little bt of PJ's commentary for ROTK and he keeps on hinting at the 25th anniversary edition. He had better hold himself true to that cause I'm counting on it.

Lalaith · 02-01-2005, 04:09 AM

Theodred's funeral scene was also about the only time that Film-Eowyn felt like Book-Eowyn to me. Fair and cold, indeed.

ninja91 · 06-08-2006, 10:44 AM

I think that the best scene was the addition of the Mouth of Sauron. I think that that was very important, and that the last battle would not have had exactly the same feeling without it.

narfforc · 06-09-2006, 05:39 AM

I agree with Ninja91, the Mouth of Sauron was a welcome addition, I also liked the Death of Saruman, no matter how big the hobbit was that shot Wormtongue?................ha.

In fact I like more of the EEs than I dislike, And I dislike more of the EEs than they deserve.........................

SarumanCymraeg · 06-09-2006, 07:58 AM

Although they were both pretty incorrect as far as the books were concerned, I truly loved both the Mouth of Sauron scene and Saruman's death scene. Christopher Lee truly at his masterful best!

Ar-Pharazon · 06-09-2006, 10:24 AM

I enjoyed the extended battle scenes in the siege of Minas Tirith. With the battle on the siege towers and the ring wraiths strafing the battlements. Especially the one where the orc horde sends the battalion of orcs charging the gate with their puny battering ram, only to be completely pasted by the Gondorian Archers. It gets to the point where the bodies are piled so high against the door that they can't ram the door.

Finally Gothmog decides to bring up "Grond" (aka Giant Troll Powered Battering Ram), like duh, why didnt he do that in the first place

.

The scene from FOTR I liked the most is when Aragorn and Boromir are talking the night before they reach the Falls or Rauros and Boromir pleads with him to bring the ring to Minas Tirith. Aragorn rejects it by saying that he "Would not bring it within a hundred leagues of the white city." It sets up the divide between Aragorn and Boromir nicely which flows well into the next scenes where Boromir tries to take the ring by himself.

Valier · 06-09-2006, 10:43 AM

The drinking game that Gimili and Legolas have is one of the best new scenes!! Legolas feels all fuzzy....Hee hee

Beanamir of Gondor · 06-15-2006, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninja91

I think that the best scene was the addition of the Mouth of Sauron. I think that that was very important, and that the last battle would not have had exactly the same feeling without it.

Maybe it's just me. I hated that scene. *rambles on about how Aragorn shouldn't have killed the messenger*

Hating to betray TTT EE Boromir and Faramir, I give my best-altogether-new-scene-vote to the Houses of Healing. Short and wanting as it is (Aragorn never gets near Merry or Faramir, and only just barely helps out Eowyn) at least we FINALLY get some Faramir-on-Eowyn action and the blue starry cloak.

Kath · 06-15-2006, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Maybe it's just me. I hated that scene. *rambles on about how Aragorn shouldn't have killed the messenger*

I hated it too, gave the wrong view of Aragorn.

I think my favourite new scenes were the ones that showed the relationship between Boromir and Faramir. It was nice to see them just as brothers, with Faramir obviously so proud of Boromir, and Boromir protective of his kid brother.

The Mouth of Sauron · 08-30-2006, 05:18 PM

The scene in ROTK with Denethor : " Why do the fools fly ? " .

Bang on portrayal by John Noble of the madness of Denethor .

ninja91 · 08-31-2006, 05:25 AM

Oh yeah, and it would not have been complete if they had not shown Saruman and what happened to him at Orthanc (even though it happened in the Shire in the books)

10-26-2006, 04:37 AM

The end of "The Two Towers"

Gandalf: Thoeden King Stands alone.

Éomer Not alone. Rohirrim! (the Rohirrim mass behind him from behind the hill)
TO THE KING!!!

calandil · 10-26-2006, 07:11 AM

i love the scene when faramir talks to pipin

Carrûn · 10-28-2006, 05:14 PM

Like many of the other posters, I enjoy the added boromir/faramir scenes in TTT and the mouth of sauron. I think they really add more depth to the story. Actually most of the EE scenes do, but those stand out in particular to me.

ArathorofBarahir · 01-03-2007, 02:22 PM

I personally enjoyed the scene at the Green Dragon in FOTR, the scene when Gimli was sitting on the Uruk at the end of the Battle for Helm's Deep, then there's the scene when Merry and Pippin find the food in Isengard and the scene where Merry and Pippin are sitting on the Walls of Isengard drinking and smoking. I also enjoy the entire celebration in Edoras after this scene.

01-29-2005, 10:07 PM	#1
Elladan and Elrohir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Halls of Mandos Posts: 332	What was the best new scene in the three EE's? All right, so, for those of you who've seen all three Extended Editions, what was the best added scene? I regret to say I have not seen ROTK EE (perhaps I am not qualified to start this thread), but my favorite new scene so far is probably the scene in TTT where Aragorn tries Eowyn's soup. Totally non-canonical, but hilarious! Please note that this is not about which EXTENDED scene was the best. Which COMPLETELY NEW scene was the best in the three EE's? __________________ "If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved. All I did was give your uncle a little nudge out of the door." THE HOBBIT - IT'S COMING

01-29-2005, 10:43 PM	#2
Lolidir Wight Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Roaming the plains of Middle Earth Posts: 103	big question. if you would like to give like 12 hours to go watch all of them over again and then come tell you then hang on .............. ok back ( not really) i cant remember all of them, but i really enjoy the Mouth of Sauron seen in RTK EE which you havent seen. its geat. i wont go into to much detail bc you havent seen it but its great. __________________ "Its a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step into the Road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to"

01-29-2005, 10:53 PM	#3
Sophia the Thunder Mistress Scent of Simbelmynë Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Aboard Highwind, bound for Traverse Town Posts: 1,780	The grandeur of the past, the desolation of the present and the hope for the future.. I loved the scene in ROTK where Frodo and Sam stumble across the statue of the Stone King at the crossroads in Ithilien. That's one of my favorite moments in the book (as I have probably said about fifteen times around here ), and I loved the way it was handled in the film version. I just loved the fact that it was included in the film version at all, because it's such a minor moment as far as the plot is concerned. Even though it doesn't inspire any major plot changes it has always seemed like the last hopeful moment before Frodo and Sam head into the utter despair of Mordor. Even though it's an emotional turning point rather than a "action based" turning point, it's always seemed very significant to me. Not to mention it makes me cry. sniff Sophia __________________ The seasons fall like silver swords, the years rush ever onward; and soon I sail, to leave this world, these lands where I have wander'd. O Elbereth! O Queen who dwells beyond the Western Seas, spare me yet a little time 'ere white ships come for me!

01-30-2005, 01:28 AM	#4
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	I would have to say that I am split between when the Fellowship leaves Rivendell, because it always makes me emotional, and I love when Frodo asks Gandalf what way is Mordor, and the scene at the end of TTT when Gimli has the sword in the head of the orc. That definitely is my most favorite humorist scene, but then I also love when Gimli gets drunk and talks about "the little hairy women" in ROTK __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

01-30-2005, 09:24 AM	#5
Michael Wilhelmson Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: IL Posts: 16	ROTK Celebration Sorry, but I have to say that Jackson couldn't have included much of the important stuff. For this thread, I liked the drinking scene (John-Ryhes Davies did all of that improv!), as well as the assassination of Saruman, as misplaced as it was. __________________ Horseman of the plains

01-30-2005, 11:25 AM	#6
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	The best new scene has to be in RotK when we see Aragorn kill that disfigured orc leader thing. I was so cross when the stone didn't crush him and I moaned about it for aaages and then there it was - him dying! Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES! __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

01-30-2005, 11:55 AM	#7
Eruanna Memento Mori Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Past The Point Of No Return Posts: 1,117	I'd have to re-watch the EEs of the first two films to pick one from each (there's a good excuse) However, for Return of the King I'd have to give a mention to the scene where Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas stumble out of the Paths of the Dead and Aragorn sees the black ships. I had to explain how they had got onto the ships so many times to people who had not read the books My favourite additions though, were the scenes in the Houses of Healing (all of them) I really regretted their absence in the theatrical version. __________________ "Remember, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."

01-30-2005, 01:30 PM	#9
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	The scene in The Return of the King where Faramir chats to Pippin. That's very nice, and one of the few good scenes with Faramir. Made up for Beregond slightly. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

01-31-2005, 12:31 PM	#10
King of the North Haunting Spirit Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 60	Elladen and Elrohir, I'd have to agree with you. That is probably my favorite NEW scene. It added some needed laughter plus it gave some more info on the Dunedain to some unaware fans. Especially those who never read the book. __________________ Ask for everything, recieve nothing

01-31-2005, 09:17 PM	#12
Lathriel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through Middle-Earth (Sadly in Alberta and not ME) Posts: 612	This is a tough question for me because I'm one of those people who changes their mind all the time as I think on the subject. Of course I LOVE all the extra scenes with Faramir. As you guys may have predicted. However, I also do like the stew scene. My mom was never a fan of that scene because she thought it made the story between Aragorn and Eowyn cheesy. But I always disagreed and it is my friend's most favourite scene. For FOTR my favourite is split between the view of Caras Gladhon, the lembas comercial (graciuosly given by Legolas) and Galadriel's gifts. For TTT it would be the Boromir/Faramir scene For ROTK I'm thinking it would be the scene between Pippin and Faramir or the crossroads. Most of my favourite scenes are the ones where character development plays a large part. I love the battlle sequences but still I prefer the character development ones. Of course that is to a certain extent. Still I watched a little bt of PJ's commentary for ROTK and he keeps on hinting at the 25th anniversary edition. He had better hold himself true to that cause I'm counting on it. __________________ Back again

02-01-2005, 04:09 AM	#13
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Theodred's funeral scene was also about the only time that Film-Eowyn felt like Book-Eowyn to me. Fair and cold, indeed.

06-09-2006, 05:39 AM	#15
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	I agree with Ninja91, the Mouth of Sauron was a welcome addition, I also liked the Death of Saruman, no matter how big the hobbit was that shot Wormtongue?................ha. In fact I like more of the EEs than I dislike, And I dislike more of the EEs than they deserve......................... __________________ [B]THE LORD OF THE GRINS:THE ONE PARODY....A PARODY BETTER THAN THE RINGS OF POWER.

06-09-2006, 07:58 AM	#16
SarumanCymraeg Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wales Posts: 19	Although they were both pretty incorrect as far as the books were concerned, I truly loved both the Mouth of Sauron scene and Saruman's death scene. Christopher Lee truly at his masterful best!

06-09-2006, 10:24 AM	#17
Ar-Pharazon Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 15	I enjoyed the extended battle scenes in the siege of Minas Tirith. With the battle on the siege towers and the ring wraiths strafing the battlements. Especially the one where the orc horde sends the battalion of orcs charging the gate with their puny battering ram, only to be completely pasted by the Gondorian Archers. It gets to the point where the bodies are piled so high against the door that they can't ram the door. Finally Gothmog decides to bring up "Grond" (aka Giant Troll Powered Battering Ram), like duh, why didnt he do that in the first place . The scene from FOTR I liked the most is when Aragorn and Boromir are talking the night before they reach the Falls or Rauros and Boromir pleads with him to bring the ring to Minas Tirith. Aragorn rejects it by saying that he "Would not bring it within a hundred leagues of the white city." It sets up the divide between Aragorn and Boromir nicely which flows well into the next scenes where Boromir tries to take the ring by himself. __________________ Do I seem fair but feel foul or do I seem foul but feel fair? Ah the questions of life.

06-09-2006, 10:43 AM	#18
Valier Twisted Taleswapper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: somewhere between sanity and insanity Posts: 1,706	The drinking game that Gimili and Legolas have is one of the best new scenes!! Legolas feels all fuzzy....Hee hee __________________ grand return?........

08-30-2006, 05:18 PM	#21
The Mouth of Sauron Wight Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Barad-Dur Posts: 196	The scene in ROTK with Denethor : " Why do the fools fly ? " . Bang on portrayal by John Noble of the madness of Denethor .

10-26-2006, 04:37 AM	#23
ingo Guest Posts: n/a	The best scene The end of "The Two Towers" Gandalf: Thoeden King Stands alone. Éomer Not alone. Rohirrim! (the Rohirrim mass behind him from behind the hill) TO THE KING!!!

10-26-2006, 07:11 AM	#24
calandil Pile O'Bones Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15	faramir and pipin i love the scene when faramir talks to pipin

10-28-2006, 05:14 PM	#25
Carrûn Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Behind you, counting to 3 Posts: 234	Like many of the other posters, I enjoy the added boromir/faramir scenes in TTT and the mouth of sauron. I think they really add more depth to the story. Actually most of the EE scenes do, but those stand out in particular to me. __________________ "Dic, hospes, Spartae, nos te hic vidisse iacentes dum sanctis patriae legibus obsequimur."

01-03-2007, 02:22 PM	#26
ArathorofBarahir Wight Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Crickhallow Posts: 247	I personally enjoyed the scene at the Green Dragon in FOTR, the scene when Gimli was sitting on the Uruk at the end of the Battle for Helm's Deep, then there's the scene when Merry and Pippin find the food in Isengard and the scene where Merry and Pippin are sitting on the Walls of Isengard drinking and smoking. I also enjoy the entire celebration in Edoras after this scene. __________________ King of the Dead: The dead do not suffer the living to pass. Aragorn: You will suffer me.