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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Sorry to have to ask this, but...
You know how Mary Sues' eye color will sometimes change when they're angry? Does that have any basis in Tolkien? ![]() ![]()
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There are no Mary-Sues in Tolkien. Hence, whatever they do is a creation of the fanfic, Mary-Suewriting, author. I would think that the shifting colour of their eyes has something to do with...
Okay, I have no idea. Certainly, I don't believe there are any references in Tolkien to changing eye colours.
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Stormdancer of Doom
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Gollum's eyes glow green.
Seriously, there is such an eye-color (in RL, not in Tolkien) called "changing grey-green-blue." (I know 'cause I have 'em.) Depending on the light and what color shirt I have on, they are steel-grey, or sea-green, or sky-blue. So there is basis of fact for this. However, Tolkien didn't make much use of it that I can recall. He doesn't mention green-eyes, and I don't think he mentions blue eyes either. I have read here on the downs (from somebody respectable, although I forget who-- Squatter? Underhill? Sharku? dunno) the suggestion that Tolkien used "Grey eyes" as a generality, and that he was probably implying variety (grey, green, blue.) I have never seen this supported.
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World's Tallest Hobbit
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Where the view is long
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Gandalf, Gimli, Gloin, Gollum...
...and Tal-Elmar. His name doesn't start with a "G"
![]() I think it's safe to say that Tolkien subscribed to the notion that "the eyes are the window to the soul" seen not only in all of the afore mentioned angry folk, but also when Gandalf declares that "there was no lie in Pippin's eye" after he interrogated him about the palantir experience. I personally know very little about Mary-Sues, but agree with Formendacil in that Tolkien had nothing to do with them.
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La Belle Dame sans Merci
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I write my own fan-fic characters with eyes based on people that I know. I've had a character with blue-green eyes that turned muddy brown when he was mad. That one's based on my dad's ever shifty eyes, which I inherited but for the color.
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![]() If you aren't looking for Tolkien-based precident, my *other* favorite author, Tamora Pierce, has characters with all sorts of neat eye colors. Liam Ironarm's eyes though, become many different shades of green. I believe jade was angry, and blue-green was flirting. Fea
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I think that all this flashing and glowing is metaphorical. Now I can't help myself imaging the fellowship at Moria and their eyes shine like a car's head lights...no need for torches, eh? Yes, I exaggerated a bit, but I think that "a sparkle in the eye" describes a hidden sneer, for example, or "flashing eyes" can mean a stern expression.
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Night In Wight Satin
Join Date: May 2000
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There weren't a lot of color changing eyes, but there certainly were a lot of flashing ones. Especially if your names started with 'G'.
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