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06-01-2005, 12:46 AM
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Pile O'Bones
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The Eagles
..One of my greatest confusion is about the eagles. One saved Gandalf from Isengard and they came to aid at the black gate.
And Nazgul are quite scared of the eagles as well. But why on earth (or middle-earth), gandalf never used this eagles to carry Frodo all the way to mount doom so swiftly as they capable of, drop frodo at the doom's opening so he could run in and drop the ring into the fire where it was forged. And all things ends there. Why the eagles were never used to a great extend? Could anybody clear the haze for me? 
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06-01-2005, 12:58 AM
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Princess of Skwerlz
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This is an interesting question, Eledhewin Ilanora! (Welcome to the Downs, by the way...) Aside from the facetious answer - If they had, there would have been no LotR book/movie! - there have been some previous discussions on this topic, mostly on the Books forum. I'll list the most interesting ones here for those who want to look back and see what serious and humorous notions others have had on the question. However, it's a good idea to begin a new discussion here and to see what answers come up!
The Great Eagle Mystery Why didn't Frodo use the eagles... Middle Earth AirForce Enjoy reading!
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06-01-2005, 01:46 AM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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It was always my impression that because of the free will of the Eagles, they didn't want to do it. Frodo would have been a mighty burden to ask any of the Eagles to carry. Plus, though Gwaihir(head Eagle) did owe Gandalf that life-debt, carry the Ring to Mordor would have been a hefty favour nevertheless.
I always assumed that the reason they showed up at the Gate was because their Lord and Creator in Valinor commanded them. Then Gandalf convinced them to bring back Frodo and Sam to repay their debt. The Gods, like Gandalf, couldn't directly use their powers to influence the war. The free peoples needed to fight it themselves. So Eagle Airlines would have been considered direct intervention.
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06-01-2005, 02:58 AM
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Pile O'Bones
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Or is it that the eagle could be tempted by the ring as well??
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06-01-2005, 04:27 AM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Now that is a scary thought, dark lord eagle.
I think also, that even though the Nazgul were 'scared' of the eagles, them coming (with Frodo) to Mordor would have tipped off Sauron and a big fight would ensue. And more of a chance for Sauron to get his hands on the ring. All was to be done in secrecy, and a flock of eagles coming, or even just one would be kind of obvious.
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06-01-2005, 07:08 AM
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Auspicious Wraith
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Baffling for the movie-goer.
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