Time to fix Gandalf versus the Witchking - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

06-19-2007, 10:51 PM

I am a fan of the movies but it is time to fix the scene where the witch king breaks Gandalfs' staff. Someone who knows video has to edit the scene - keep the part where Gandalf meets the WitchKing and have him say " do you not know death when you see it? This is my hour" Then cut out the part where the Witchking breaks Gandallf's staff, show Gandalf on his horse - and not on the ground , cut back to the Witchking's face and then hear the sound of the horn or Rohan .Then show the Witchking flying off.

Then put it up on YouTube. After some time it will become the official scene in the hearts of fans.

I don't know anyone who is a fan of the books who likes this scene the way it is.

With all the videos and clips of the films already on the net I would guess it would not be difficult at all to do.

That scene ruins the films IMHO.

Someone out there please fix the biggest flaw of the films.

You are right I ought to get a life, nevertheless it is something that ought to be done.

If you agree with this please tell other fans.

alatar · 06-20-2007, 09:01 AM

Jonathan, welcome to the Downs!

What a wonderful idea. I'm guessing that the reason that it hasn't been done is that one is messing with copyrighted material, and getting that to load into editing software is never fun (is it even legal?).

I'd be happy with the scene 'as is' (shudders) if only Peter Jackson would put a slim smile on the prone Gandalf's face after the Witch-King finishes his brag. That little addition, to me, would change the scene completely by showing that, even when down, Gandalf did not despair and knew a 'dead man talking' when he saw one.

Lindale · 06-24-2007, 09:26 PM

That part was all right; otherwise, it would all be too-stereotypical Hero that does not know or show fear. It showed (a bit?) of Gandalf's human-ness, because even in the books Olorin said he was afraid. (See the UT, The Istari, I don't have that book right now in my pocket). In my opinion Jackson did a pretty good job at the movies, and though the book version is almost always better than the movie, he interpreted the book really good.

09-26-2007, 09:03 AM

PJ & his 2 assistants to this day have no idea how much damage they have done to the final film with this scene. Their commentary on the scene is of sheer foolishness & cluelessness.

Knight of Gondor · 09-26-2007, 11:39 AM

Actually, this would be a cinch. I'll see if I can wrangle it today, but it might have to wait until the weekend. You can help - go to YouTube and find an already-existing video of the Gandalf-Witchking encounter.

obloquy · 09-26-2007, 04:47 PM

There's nothing wrong with this scene existing in the movie, as Gandalf's entire nature has been adapted for the film version. The scene plays out as it should.

06-19-2007, 10:51 PM	#1
Jonathan Guest Posts: n/a	Time to fix Gandalf versus the Witchking I am a fan of the movies but it is time to fix the scene where the witch king breaks Gandalfs' staff. Someone who knows video has to edit the scene - keep the part where Gandalf meets the WitchKing and have him say " do you not know death when you see it? This is my hour" Then cut out the part where the Witchking breaks Gandallf's staff, show Gandalf on his horse - and not on the ground , cut back to the Witchking's face and then hear the sound of the horn or Rohan .Then show the Witchking flying off. Then put it up on YouTube. After some time it will become the official scene in the hearts of fans. I don't know anyone who is a fan of the books who likes this scene the way it is. With all the videos and clips of the films already on the net I would guess it would not be difficult at all to do. That scene ruins the films IMHO. Someone out there please fix the biggest flaw of the films. You are right I ought to get a life, nevertheless it is something that ought to be done. If you agree with this please tell other fans. Last edited by Jonathan; 06-19-2007 at 11:04 PM.

06-20-2007, 09:01 AM	#2
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	Belling cats Jonathan, welcome to the Downs! What a wonderful idea. I'm guessing that the reason that it hasn't been done is that one is messing with copyrighted material, and getting that to load into editing software is never fun (is it even legal?). I'd be happy with the scene 'as is' (shudders) if only Peter Jackson would put a slim smile on the prone Gandalf's face after the Witch-King finishes his brag. That little addition, to me, would change the scene completely by showing that, even when down, Gandalf did not despair and knew a 'dead man talking' when he saw one. __________________ There is naught that you can do, other than to resist, with hope or without it.

06-24-2007, 09:26 PM	#3
Lindale Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: midway upon... in a forest dark Posts: 975	That part was all right; otherwise, it would all be too-stereotypical Hero that does not know or show fear. It showed (a bit?) of Gandalf's human-ness, because even in the books Olorin said he was afraid. (See the UT, The Istari, I don't have that book right now in my pocket). In my opinion Jackson did a pretty good job at the movies, and though the book version is almost always better than the movie, he interpreted the book really good. __________________ The heart does things for reasons Reason itself cannot comprehend. - Blaise Pascal Legal Madness.

09-26-2007, 11:39 AM	#5
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	Actually, this would be a cinch. I'll see if I can wrangle it today, but it might have to wait until the weekend. You can help - go to YouTube and find an already-existing video of the Gandalf-Witchking encounter. __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16

09-26-2007, 09:03 AM	#4
Mansun Guest Posts: n/a	PJ & his 2 assistants to this day have no idea how much damage they have done to the final film with this scene. Their commentary on the scene is of sheer foolishness & cluelessness.

09-26-2007, 04:47 PM	#6
obloquy Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: WA Posts: 935	There's nothing wrong with this scene existing in the movie, as Gandalf's entire nature has been adapted for the film version. The scene plays out as it should.