Rings of Power & Osanwe-Kenta

[Neithan]

What I'm saying is that there indeed was a link with Thingol that made her incarnate herself and be with him in ME.

Oh, I apologize for misrepresenting your position.

I have to strongly disagree with the level of incarnation of Melian and Sauron. Melian is definitely more strongly dependent on her hröa than Sauron. Why? Because she even had a child in that union.

Looking back on my last post I think I greatly exagerated the difference between Melian and Sauron. Melian was certainly quite dependent on her hröa, but I still think that, because of his special circumstances, Sauron was even more dependent than she was (I am talking about after the Númenórë thing, of course).

Are you implying that Sauron was a mere spirit and not incarnate during his time in Númenórë?

No indeed, that would be a rediculous assertion. I was speaking of the difference between "incarnated" and "clothed", so when I said "incarnated" what I meant was "bound to his hröa".