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The Black Lieutenant · 11-06-2000, 07:21 PM

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Re: Orcish Fear

Do not bandy words in your insolence with the Mouth of Sauron! Just kidding.

God or not (I make no distinction between gods and other mythological beings) my point was that Tolkien intended there to be an association between Earendil the Mariner and Earendil the star, or maybe mythological identification is a better term. Was anyone disputing this? I don't remember now, but I thought so at the time.

The idea that orcs evolved from beasts sounds great. What discrepancies arise from this revision?

The question is not whether or not goblins and elves were related in Norse-Teutonic myth, but whether or not they were related in British folklore. Tolkien's earlier conceptions of elves and goblins were more folklorish than his later conceptions, which were more influenced by the epics than by folklore.

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11-06-2000, 07:21 PM	#11
The Black Lieutenant Pile O'Bones Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 17	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Newly Deceased Posts: 7</TD><TD><img src=http://www.geocities.com/mouth_of_sauron/sauron.gif WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Orcish Fear Do not bandy words in your insolence with the Mouth of Sauron! Just kidding. God or not (I make no distinction between gods and other mythological beings) my point was that Tolkien intended there to be an association between Earendil the Mariner and Earendil the star, or maybe mythological identification is a better term. Was anyone disputing this? I don't remember now, but I thought so at the time. The idea that orcs evolved from beasts sounds great. What discrepancies arise from this revision? The question is not whether or not goblins and elves were related in Norse-Teutonic myth, but whether or not they were related in British folklore. Tolkien's earlier conceptions of elves and goblins were more folklorish than his later conceptions, which were more influenced by the epics than by folklore. http://www.geocities.com/mouth_of_sauron/ </a> </img> I am the Lieutenant of <a href=http://pub28.ezboard.com/blugburz>Lugburz</a>, a member of the <a href=http://www.tolkienboards.cjb.net/>Tolkien EZBoard Network</a>. </p>