The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Announcements and Obituaries > Haudh-en-Ndengin
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts


 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Old 03-04-2003, 03:02 PM   #31
The Saucepan Man
Corpus Cacophonous
 
The Saucepan Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A green and pleasant land
Posts: 8,390
The Saucepan Man has been trapped in the Barrow!
Pipe

Quote:
In regards to Morgoth's 'might' and when the Valar would choose to attack. It is I think specious to say that they had to wait. Why? they did not have to wait in the war of the powers?
My earlier post was based on the idea that Melkor was less powerful after 500 years of fighting the Noldor and breeding orcs, dragons and the like than he was when he first departed Valinor with the Simarils. I seem to recall having seen some justification for this idea in the Silmarillion, although I cannot now recall where.

And, based on that assumption, the point that I was making was that the defeat of Melkor was achieved with far more certainty and considerably less loss (in terms of lives and damage to Arda) in consequence of the Noldor's rebellion and flight to Beleriand. And if that is correct, then the Noldor achieved far more than zero.

And, if my assumption concerning Melkor being weakened is not correct then, as lord of dor-lomin asks, why did they not take action against Melkor immediately? Or seeing the suffering that he was bringing to those who had not "sinned" by participating in the kin-slaying at Alqualonde (the Sindar and Laiquendi and, of course, Men) and those who had participated because they believed that they were under attack (the host of Fingolfin), why did they not then intervene?

So, to my mind, either the Noldor achieved much in weakening Melkor for the final assault by the host of Valinor, or the Valar seem a pretty uncaring bunch. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]
__________________
Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!
The Saucepan Man is offline  
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:37 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.