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Old 09-10-2003, 08:04 AM   #4
smaug_the_magnificent
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Hang on a minute, when did anyone say Peter would have to "worry" (persay) about Religious connotations?<P>The guy's the director, if he wants to put it in, well and good - if not, it's all good too.. No dramas<P>However just in terms of debate, it would be interesting to know whether or not PJ decided to included (or excluded) this line because of its aforesaid overtones.. Of course, further to this point and on the other hand, as you alluded to, it could be argued that such acceptaions have gone unnoticed..<P>I find that notion somewhat hard to believe though:<P>At the crucifixion, when nailed to the cross, Christ says "I am thirsty" ...This occurs at the penultimate moment before His death, and these words are uttered to fulfil the scripture..<P>I am acutely aware (as any Tolkien aficionados would be) of his disdain for allegory, however an author cannot be wholly unaffected by their beliefs or empirical experiences (which he freely conceded also) <P>Yes, this line is an anomaly in the context of the rest of the novel and when taking note of what Tolkien himself has declared on this matter.. There are messages and metaphors littered throughout the Lord of the Rings but most are implicit and just beneath the surface.. This one appears not to be so - but his vehement conviction for Catholicism is so strong I can understand how he may have made an exception at this highly poignant moment (in terms of the story)<P>I could be wrong, but the similarities are too great to discount it - it's a point in the book when Frodo decides to say nothing more, lest his Quest is achieved.. However he utters one final line which, without much thought as to its relevance or meaning, still seems to fit just perfectly.. I hope PJ can recreate that mood somehow
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