Who were the Ringwraiths? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

narfforc · 03-02-2005, 09:21 AM

Sorry Halbarad, But you are putting a living mortal slant on your point. The Nazgul, and that includes their Black Captain, were subservient to the will of Sauron, they had virtually no independent thoughts for power and glory, beyond the designs of their dark master. There would be no power struggle between them, therefore The Morgul Lord would not have worried about his Lieutenant, Gothmog, being a powerful Nazgul. Minas Morgul was the home of The Ringwraiths, The Lieutenant of Morgul was Gothmog. If Gothmog was not a Nazgul, what was he?. Do not forget, Sauron thought that Aragorn may have had The One Ring, He would not send another powerful, independent thinking man to retake it, and maybe fall prey to its corruption. The only beings he could trust were The Nazgul, taking The One Ring, they would have returned it to him. The Hierarchy of any army or battlefield would have demanded that the second most powerful individual would have taken control after the death of The Lord of the Nazgul, and we all know who that was. Tolkien called him The Lieutenant of Morgul, being an ex army officer himself, he would have known that Lieutenant means: An army Officer next below Captain, so who on that battlefield was next in rank below The Black Captain? an Orc! or maybe a Troll even, it had to be something if it was not a Nazgul, so of which mighty race was it.

03-02-2005, 09:21 AM	#36
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	Sorry Halbarad, But you are putting a living mortal slant on your point. The Nazgul, and that includes their Black Captain, were subservient to the will of Sauron, they had virtually no independent thoughts for power and glory, beyond the designs of their dark master. There would be no power struggle between them, therefore The Morgul Lord would not have worried about his Lieutenant, Gothmog, being a powerful Nazgul. Minas Morgul was the home of The Ringwraiths, The Lieutenant of Morgul was Gothmog. If Gothmog was not a Nazgul, what was he?. Do not forget, Sauron thought that Aragorn may have had The One Ring, He would not send another powerful, independent thinking man to retake it, and maybe fall prey to its corruption. The only beings he could trust were The Nazgul, taking The One Ring, they would have returned it to him. The Hierarchy of any army or battlefield would have demanded that the second most powerful individual would have taken control after the death of The Lord of the Nazgul, and we all know who that was. Tolkien called him The Lieutenant of Morgul, being an ex army officer himself, he would have known that Lieutenant means: An army Officer next below Captain, so who on that battlefield was next in rank below The Black Captain? an Orc! or maybe a Troll even, it had to be something if it was not a Nazgul, so of which mighty race was it.