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Old 07-10-2009, 03:38 PM   #7
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So I would think of that rather in terms of clear thinking, being careful, thoughtful and acknowledging one's place in the world rightly.~Nogrod
Yes, but isn't accepting one's place in the world also a part of humility? Gandalf's (and Faramir's) acknowledgement that they aren't running the show, they can only control what is within their power, and that is their own choices.

The opposite would then be Morgoth and Sauron, who knew they weren't in control, and may have known Eru wouldn't allow them to win, but still wanted to run the show, and for whatever reasons rejected the fact that in the end they would lose...that may be more foolish than pride, but still wouldn't that be pride?

Or even Aragorn, who learns his place (from Hama and Gandalf) when he goes to Edoras. He tries to assert his rule over Theoden's and is smacked back down to reality, by being told he is not the King of Gondor yet, and even if he was he has no authority to order the King of Rohan around. Aragorn takes a step back, and places himself in a counselor role to Theoden during the battle of Helm's Deep.
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